£25000 horse down to £1450.....

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Morning all,
just stumbled upon this advert
http://equestrian.uk.freeads.net/horses_...A+SJ-203063.htm
it made me
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as he is £1450, and would be £25k but he is a shiverer. Would that really cause such a drop in price?!
 
Yes if you are thinking of buying
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TBH I would be thinking there is something else not quite right,you wouldnt knock the best part of 24k off for an issue that doesnt affect his abilty to do the work asked.
 
Personally I wouldn't pay £14.50 for a horse that was a shiverer.

There are always plenty of gullible people around. You only have to read these posts to hear of people who buy horses off the internet without even seeing them. They pay their money without having them vetted or seeing any paperwork.
 
myself, if i was advertising this horse - IMO i wouldnt put how much it should be worth then knock it down so much as it just sets the alarm bells ringing!
i do know people who have bought blind from the internet and thankfully, they have all be fab horses but i guess there are loads of gullible people around!
ps - not thinking of buying nope, trying to help a friend find a pony for their daughter - how i got onto looking at horses thought i dont know lol!
 
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This may be a stupid question, but what is a shiverer?

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Shivering is a disease of the nervous system causing horses to snatch their legs or 'shiver'. There are varying degrees of shivering and some shiverers can appear perfectly normal most of the time. They can deteriorate with time or remain the same for years. Bit of risk though.
 
Hi Harrie, "Shivers is a nervous condition which makes horses restless and causes them to shake their legs in a shivering manner. Commonly, an affected horse will pick up a hindleg, hold it away from the body slightly, and shake it. The tail may also be raised and shiver and the neck may be extended. The condition becomes worse when the horse is made to walk backwards and it becomes diffficult for him to pick up the hindlegs." Taken text from vets Q & A site, check out the link http://www.freevetadvice.co.uk/vet_advice_menu.htm
 
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p.s. if you look at it's rear end you can see it obviously has major problems - look at how under developed the muscle is.

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There are photos?
Damn,net OH must have been playing with parental controlls again
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I do think there are people out there who would pay in that region for "good" breeding(ie,a few names they know) and ad states shivering does not affect his work-if that is right then they should be able to find a buyer...although sounds like the pics tell a different story
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There is a horse on our yard who shivers it is very hard to get insurance and he can be very difficult with the farrier so he is not shod behind. TBH I would not touch it with a barge pole far to many problems
 
I had a shiverer, bought at 4 and passed vet with flying colours.

Backed that autumn and going ok then he started to bronc. Saddle fitter diagnosed cold back but I wasn't happy that this was the only reason so I got Andre from Clyde Valley (then AcornVet) one of the top guys in Scotland. He diagnosed probable shivering due to his back leg action.

The broncing continued and got worse, he started to drag the inside leg in walk and was unable to do dressage. He became unsafe to jump at 9 as he would land and bronc. I gifted him to the ILPH at 10 as an unrideable horse, they came out and assessed and took him on as a companion only.

Safe to say I wouldn't touch a shiverer with a barge pole if I planned on doing anything but light hacking.
 
We have a 17.1hh 12 yrs old shiverer, dont shoe behind as it distresses him, but he is fine, evented to prenovice this year and will go further next year.
He is a star moves really well, and has a temperment to die for. We are often approached by people who want to buy him. He is often handled and ridden by our 5 yr old son, wouldnt swap him for the world, look at the horse not the problem!
Shame I havent got £1500 would be off to look at the one advertised.
 
It does affect horse's differently depending on the severity and what nerves are damaged.

We have a dressage horse at the yard who shivers but it only affect shoeing and putting boots on, he moves like a dream.

My boy wasn't too bad to shoe and didn't visibly shiver when his leg was lifted but he was uncomfortable under saddle and didn't move correctly.

It's a lotto buying a shiverer as you never know how badly it will affect them in the future.
 
I had a shiverer, International Grade A t 9 years old and still going strong at 20 with more stamps in his passport than Ive had hot dinners.

We use to stand him up against a wall / side of horsebox to shoe or put studs in. It took 3 of us to do but no real problem. He used to lean against the wall for support. Fanastic jumper, great hack and best friend!
 
OMG I can not believe what some people are saying about shiverers, I have worked for international show jumpers and top show horses and we have had a few that were shivers, it DOESN'T affect there performance in anyway as long as you don't force the horse/pony out of its comfort zone when it picks up there hind legs, I have now got a horse that is a shiverer (pics of him on the photo gallary under twizzle the palomino) and he is an amazing jumper and great at dressage. Looking at the pics of the horse in question I would say that he has got a bad back that is the reason why the price has dropped so much
 
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