16.2, 8yo, black based loud leopard, Knabstrupper x ISH gelding. Shropshire.

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Large star, pink snip and blanket.

White Irish passport.

I owned this boy for nearly a year but had to sell him in November 2010, due to a change in circumstances.

He was originally bought as a rising 6yo, project to bring on and re-back, due to being out of work for a while.

It became apparent that he was very nervous under saddle, I wasn't progressing much with him, so sent him to a professional, for re-backing.

He was given the all clear from the vet and physio by the time he went to be backed and it was believed to be behavioural.

I sold him to a nice couple in Telford, Shropshire, who owned Longdon Livery.

They took him on with the view to working with him to overcome his issues, but if not, he would have a nice home as an inhand show horse.

I sold him for what wasn't much, at the time- though in this market, he's probably worth even less!

I saw him advertised by the people I sold him to, a year on, advertised as being out of work for 12 months- so I'm guessing they didn't do much with him under saddle.
He was then advertised back in April, still as a project for re-backing, but they wanted a lot more than they paid and I just wouldn't have been able to afford it for a horse that hasn't done anything.

I contacted them a while back and have again recently, but I'm not sure if they've received my messages or if they're just busy- or perhaps don't want me to have him back as a field ornament! :(

If anyone knows where he is (I'd perhaps like to know if they still own him or if they did in fact manage to sell him back in April), please let me know.

I have since traced one of his previous owner's, right back and found that at times, without warning, he could display quite dangerous tendencies out of the blue, like blind bolting etc. She was actually going to have him PTS, but a friend persuaded her to sell him to her but then the friend sold him to someone, who then sold him to me- you get the idea!

He was always nervous and would shoot forwards when you tried to mount (old owner brought him over from Ireland and believes he had been kicked in the stomach/beaten) and would sometimes tense like he wanted you off but he'd taken so long to progress at the breaker's, he was only walking and trotting round the school so his behaviour didn't escalate too much. I was extremely honest at the time of sale, just in case anyone thinks I tried to 'do one', I just wanted the best possible home for him!

I thought I was doing the best, selling him to someone with more money and time than myself. I thought it was a shame to write him off at 6yo, so if someone could give him a purpose (even just inhand) he would be well loved and his brain would be kept ticking over.

I know circumstances can change and I do not blame the people I sold him to at all. I would just like to know where he is, and depending on price, offer him a home as a non-ridden companion, for the rest of his days.

Apologies for the novel there.

If anyone can help, please send me a PM. :)

Photos aren't actually mine, they were from previous adverts that I have managed to find online. Unfortunately, I lost photos of him when my laptop died!

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Thank you, Trasa. :)

I think what worries me, is I have since found out his history, since selling him on and at the time, thought 6yo, having been given the all clear physically, with time and experience, he may come on- but since finding out what I have from the first owner who brought him over, it seems his nervous/dangerous tendencies are just 'him' and he's been passed from pillar to post.

I thought selling him to someone with more money and experience would be the best thing for him, but by the looks of things (going by adverts I have found) the new owners haven't done anything with him either.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I just want to make sure he is safe and doesn't get passed on again.

Had I not found the old adverts, I would've been more than happy for the home I found to keep him. I just worry as they obviously have/had wanted to sell him at some point.

He was still being sold as a project, 18 months after they bought him. To me, that just screams that he'd be better off as a companion- and if I can offer him a safe and secure future as a field ornament, then so be it. There are worse fates in life and I don't believe he will be 'wasted' as some people sometimes believe. I think he will be quite happy munching away and not having to worry about scary-horse-eating-people sitting on his back! ;) I already have two cobs with spavin, making them plods only and my geriatric first pony who is nothing more than a pet- and they aren't going anywhere. What's one more 'pet' in the field, eh?! ;)
 
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Trasa; I've emailed and messaged them on FB and got nowhere. They've never been good at keeping in touch. :s

His name was Tonka, when I had him. Like I say, I have since found out all his history, since being brought over and I would at least like to pass info on.
 

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Hmm I feel like I might have seen an advert for him sometime as he is certainly distinctive! Have you tried getting someone else to message them about him? Maybe they just feel a bit awkward or something talking to you :)
 

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Not sure what the reason is to why they haven't got back to me. Everything was on good terms. Wouldn't want to upset them. As I haven't heard back, I'm assuminghe probably is sold. Will keep trying though.
 

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Unfortunately, his details were never registered on NED and the like (not that it matters now, I suppose), i.e. his details/number would never show up on the database- I checked when I owned him and the passport was in front of me. He has a white passport with The Irish Horse Board, who I have since contacted. I have the details of the lady who originally brought him over/registered him with IHB and having contacted them about a month ago, no owner or address details have be re-registered, sadly. :(
 

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Christ. He's lovely but green and obviously hasn't progressed. Could never afford that for a field ornament. :/ Sorry for being dim, is he on Preloved or a site called 'pteloved Shropshire horses'? Can't find details. Thank you. Xx
 

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At least now you know where he is and that he's ok so if he gets s old you can keep track on him. Or....make them an offer to take him off their hands :)
 

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Trasa; I've emailed and messaged them on FB and got nowhere. They've never been good at keeping in touch. :s

His name was Tonka, when I had him. Like I say, I have since found out all his history, since being brought over and I would at least like to pass info on.

How about the good old telephone...............???
 

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I know somebody who's at livery on this yard.....I could ask them if they know anything / can find out what the story is........?
 

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To be honest, it's obvious they wouldn't want me to have him back as they never contacted me the numerous times over the last 2 years when they have tried to sell him before. I tried texting initially, then followed up with email and fb, a while later. I then misplaced the number and having heard nothing back, assumed they'd gotten rid so didn't want to harass them again, hence coming on here to try a different route, to find where he was.

At least I know where he is now. It's a shame as I know of a perfect home for him, if they didn't want him to come back to me. I know it sounds like they want him to go somewhere to be worked but he hasn't had 12 months off (as the ad states), he's had 24 months. They advertised him in Nov '11 (they bought him in Nov '10) as having 12 months off. They've done nothing with him, his first owner that I contacted after selling him says he was dangerous. Ok, so he was never that bad when I had him but wasn't the most confident under saddle and that was doing nothing more than walking and the odd trot in the school. It was a very slow process. Imagine a horse with the mentality of a nervy/very green 3yo...

If he hasn't come on in the last two years, I highly doubt he will now, certainly having since heard what I have off the first owner that brought him over.

I worry someone will take him on (naively, like I did- though he was only 5yo when I bought him so figured he was just green/age on his side) and not progress due to the issues I have since found out he has, and he will be passed on again and again as a project for bringing on and rebacking, up until someone decides they can't do much with him and he's PTS. :( I just want to make sure he goes to a nice home as I worry and have never stopped thinking about him. :/
 
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