3 generations of mares bred to same stallion...opinions?

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A top Arab breeder in Belgium is breeding four mares to my 3yo first-season stallion this year.

Three of these mares are mother, daughter and grand-daughter!

Leaving aside the issue of this breeder's amazing confidence in breeding all her best mares to a first-season stallion (!), I am curious to know if anyone on here has bred 2 or more generations to the same stallion?

Or if anyone has any thoughts/opinions on this?
 
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I would take it as a compliment!

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So would I! Well done Htobago - your little guy must have made a good impression on people.
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It will be very interesting to see how the foals all turn out and what characteristic traits they develop.
 
We have bred a mare and her dam to the same sire. I don't see a problem. What I wouldn't do, and I know someone that has done this, is breed a daughter to the grand sire or sire. Just plain wrong imo, and I wouldn't breed to any of the offspring from that coupling.
 
Thanks vicijp and tia!

It is certainly a huge compliment, I agree! This breeder has seen my boy at shows and is a big fan (obviously lol).

But it was more the idea of breeding three generations to the same stallion that intrigued me - did you breed the dams and their daughters in the same year, or was it that you were impressed with the first result and wanted to try a similar combination of bloodlines?

Irishcobs - inbreeding of the kind you mention (sire to daughter/ grandsire to grand-daughter) is practised by some Arab breeders with success, but I think one really has to be very experienced and expert to do this, and I would certainly be very wary.
 
I think my uncle took 2 sisters, and a foal out of each to the same stallion one year (Karinga Bay = yuk).
Thinking along racing lines, then if the stallion complements one mare then he is likely to compliment mares with a simlar pedigree.
So if the mares have lots of bone and are quickish jumping types(from the same family) then a heavy topped 1m4f horse would suit them all.
Not sure how that relates across the disciplines though!
I guess that if you are confident that the stallion is the right choice for a mare, then thoretically he should suit relations to her also.
I dont think I agree with line breeding, have had a few and they were all useless!
There is a big demand for Sir Harry Lewis mares at the moment (name your price) to put to Flemensfirth (hot NH stallion), they are both by Alleged. I had offers for Little Harry before he had left the womb - but we wouldnt have sold him even if he was a filly!
I know someone who is doing it the other way round, so can let you know when I break it in a few years down the line!
 
I had a lady bring me 2 mares the same year - mother & daughter - this happen 2 years running. The third year I had the same 2 mares plus the grand daughter. She then had a few years off breeding and this year I have had the daughter and grand daughter (the mother has retired) but have also had the great grand daughter in for backing. So again had 3 generations.

All 3 have produced fairly similar types - stallion being a Quarter Horse and the mares being appaloosas. ONly 1 didn't spot out and that was the great grand daughter we in for backing.!!!!
 
We have just had a man use our stallion on his mare and her dam, he is also considering the grandaughter ! i suppose he knows what his mares will throw to what type ? the most co insidental thing is ,a mare i own is also the grandmother of the mans dam ! small world.
 
Not Mother and daughter but full sisters.
Any offspring always take after their dams in that Jenny's always have pretty heads and are lighter in build and not as tall, and Judy's are chunkier and slightly quieter in temperament.
Both mares are by an ID x TB stallion ex a very good competition mare who was 16 hh. Yet the smaller mare has thrown what appears to be a 15.1 to 2 hh and the other a well over 16 hh both to the same stallion..
I would love to see pics if ever you get any of your future foals..
 
Of my ponies, all registered one have the same dad, two are from sisters, one is from the sisters mother and one is from the older sisters daughter. All the ponies are quite different. If you look at two foals even same parentage can create very different foals.

That guy clearly likes your stallion!

Haz
 
Thanks henryhorn - I will certainly post pics of Tobago's foals next year. There may be rather a lot, as he has about 25 mares booked (possibly a national record for a first-season Arab, I am told
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) and more requests still coming in...

The Belgian breeder has been getting email from 'friends' telling her she's crazy to breed all her best mares to an unproven stallion - but she remains confident and defiant, bless her! She's an experienced and v successful breeder, so I figure she knows what she's doing.
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I'm tremendously grateful to her, and to all the other breeders who are using my boy, as I have no mares of my own - Tobago is my only horse and I am a novice newbie in the Arab-breeding world. Must be 'beginner's luck', I suppose!
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i see no problem, its not like in-breeding it will be really interesting to see what the foals turn out like! im sending my mare to her step son for covering atm! which isnt inbreeding but interesting. hope your stallion goes well!
 
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