A long sad story and a what should I do?

halo92

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A horse has come onto my yard on a weeks trial with a view to buy and is being shared by a lady who used to ride when she was little and a young girl who has never ridden before.

The mare is very thin and neglected, wormy looking and is lame behind with pretty poor conformation. She came very depressed but has perked up a little this week from being fed. However, she is not field sound - when I go to feed my horse, she tries to trot over but cannot stay in trot and has to walk. She is being sold because the people who own her have been breeding their own and have too many horses, all of whom look like hatracks. The owners have out and out lied about the mare, saying she is a quality warmblood who has been hunting every week. However, the mare has absolutely no muscle and when ridden, is noticeably lame and gets out of breath when trotting. She cannot canter properly on the left and will not canter on the right. If she is a warmblood, then I am Elvis Presley.

The asking price is very cheap, about £1500. The lady was originally tempted at the prospect of having a cheap horse and having the little girl's family pay half the costs. She said she thought the horse had 'great paces' and could be sold on for a major profit... However, she is now complaining that the horse is too lazy and will send her back. Neither the little girl nor the lady appear to think the horse is lame. They are quite well meaning and feel sorry for the horse but the lady definitely wants to do things on the cheap. I have tried to say what I think - that the mare is not in any way sound and the kindest thing would be to put her down. But they don't seem to take it on board.

So the week is up and the mare is due to go back to whatever hole she came from. This leaves me with a great dilemma - I feel awful for the little horse and have thought about offering meat money for her and then having her PTS. But as a friend has rightly pointed out, 'rescuing' her would simply put money in the pocket of the people who let her get into this state and that would only encourage them to breed more like her.

It makes me unbelievably sad, angry and frustrated to see the horse like this, being ridden every day by someone who cannot tell that it is lame and to know that it will go back to a miserable existence soon. What would be the right and kindest thing to do?

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You need to voice your concerns to the potential owners: maybe the YM is the best person for this?

I would find out who owns the mare and report them to WHW.
 
It's a DIY yard and the YO is not horsey at all so that's not really an option. I doubt the charities would get involved - it is just a scrappy little thing with not a lot going for it... Plus this week it has been fed and shod and groomed etc. so it doesn't look as sad as it did previously...
 
Hmm. Difficult then. Don't suppose you know anyone who owners wil listen to to tell them the truth that they apparently can't see?
 
I agree with Mrsmozart. i have a habbit of bying 'castoff's' and some of them have been my best horses. They do take time but they can come. if she is as bad as you say you may find that she is partially lame as she hasn't got the muscle to support herself especialy if she is a warmblood in 'secret'.

I am in the minority though, i really enjoy watching them turn into a good looking horse again. One of my nicest horses was bought straight from a field (he is TB) for £900 as the owner couldn't be bothered. i fed him, started him lunging and when i got on him i couldn't believe my luck, he is advanced/medium level DR!!!! My DR instructor offered me £5000 for him a week later. Call me stupid but i said no, i love going eventing with him and getting scores of 25-30. some said i would never do DR. haha.

good luck
 
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It's a DIY yard and the YO is not horsey at all so that's not really an option. I doubt the charities would get involved - it is just a scrappy little thing with not a lot going for it... Plus this week it has been fed and shod and groomed etc. so it doesn't look as sad as it did previously...

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If this horse is off a yard with many horses in a bad state as you say, I suspect the charities would be very interested indeed. Why do you think they woudn't care about a 'scrappy little thing'? Give them a call, don't just write them off - what have you got to lose?

Dodgy dealers will let horses get into a state so that people feel bad and 'save' them by paying for them, so buying this horse would probably just allow the dealer to buy more horses on the cheap and do the same thing again.
 
Let the loaners send her back. You offer meat money to the owners if you want, otherwise either the owners will sell her again to different, even less knowledgeable mugs or probably breed from her. They might not take the meat money, but I think its worth a go if you can spare it.
 
For those of you suggesting that the horse might come right with some time and care, let me put you sadly to rights. The horse was described as a warmblood aged 9. If you could see her and her teeth, it would immediately become apparent that she is close to 20 years old, very likely a full TB.

The horse had a possible colicky episode this week and they asked me to have a look at her - by the grace of God, she didn't have colic or need the vet but they were all standing around the (uninsured) horse saying they couldn't afford the vet so should they call the RSPCA. It completely broke my heart.
 
I'm soft and if could afford it would not hesitate to buy her. I would not be able to live with myself if she had to go back, and the thoughts of where she would end up next. If she became poorly once I had her well at least she had a chance. I would also get someone to check out the yard she came from. You have nothing to lose
 
any idea of why horse is lame? when you say buy to pts that also has costs attached for you, even with the pain of doing the right thing, try a charity my fingers are crossed for horse..
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Why or why are so many inexperienced people owning horses?
The poor mare. I would inform the horse welfare organisations as this is a welfare case and - based on previous experience of cases highlighted on this forum- go straight to the BHS. The trial owners are obviously not going to take on board anything from you as they have the £ signs in front of their eyes.
As for the yard where she comes from, then they also need to be reported and perhaps you can involve some of the other welfare organisations at this point, where time is not as important. We all know how quickly some of them get their act in gear.
Remeber, things only continue like this because 'good men said nothing!. Good luck ...oh and don't write her off until you can really see what she's like with a few more days of decent [bland] feed into her ..
 
Find out who ownes the horse (can i have their number im interested in the horse) and call the rspca, i dont like them but in cases like this they might step in if you tell them the buyer has no horse experience at all and cant afford a vet, leaving an animal with no vet care is i believe a crime.
 
tell the prospective purchasers to get a vet to assess her re age and soundness! find out the vendors and lodge a complaint/concern re general welfare and take 5 paces back! the joys of a DIY yard.
 
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