A&P Calm and Condition?

[5horses2dogsandacat]

Got my boy on this at the moment he's on a scoop a day dry.. (I then wet it dont worry...sorry dont want to sound rude, but I know people will start saying I need to wet it!) and he has half of this in each feed... Just seems rather a lot, I know a percentage will be water.. does this sound like about the right amount, im a bit new to the Allen Page, he's a 16.1 TB who's in light work on ad lib haylage (reasonable quality) but doesnt hold his weight well. On top of this he get a 3/4 cup rice bran (Equi Jewel) and half a scoop of Alfa a oil.

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[caramel]

My boy's not long been on this either. I feed half a scoop twice a day. However my boy is resting. Think it depends a lot on workload etc.

 

[Sauerkraut]

Mine was on 3/4 of a scoop and wet it does look huge lol. I weighted it And it was 750 gramm per Feed. I just gave 1 handful of chaff with it because he choked once on it (and yes I do wet it a lot)

 

[Flowers187]

Its not that much, mine has 1/3 a scoop in her tea at night with twice the amount of water and it doesnt seem that big with a scoop of chaff? It shouldnt have enough water in it so that its really sloppy, all the nuts should have turned to mush but still consistent. I also fine that they dont tend to need as much as they recommened you feed, its fab stuff though!

 

[AmyMay]

You can feed loads of C&C (and still not see any improvement - so a total waste of money in my book).

However, if your horse needs help holding on to his weight at a minimum he will need two feeds a day at the manufacturers required amount.

 

[Damnation]

I feed less than you for my Dutch Warmblood (who isn't really in work atm) to maintain her weight and it is holding her weight fine. But she wasn't thin to begin with.

A friend of mine fed it to her thin TB and he is now a porker, really worked for him and it is maintaining my mares weight fine.

It seems with the C+C that it either really works and the horse looks great or it doesn't.

 

[Wundahorse]

Sounds a good amount to me.I have been feeding this to our three very different horses for two plus years with excellent results.I have cut ours down to about 1/3 for the Arab;1/4 for the section D,and 1/2 for the WB.I also give fast fibre,and they have more of that,around 1/2 each for the Arab and the D,plus 1 scoop daily for the WB.They get chaff as well,plus veteran vitality for 27 year old Arab,who looks in great condition and still believes she is 5 years old.

 

[Mlini]

Mine gets 1/2 scoop (dry) in each feed along with 1/2 scoop (dry) speedibeet and 1 scoop Alfa-A.. It fills his bucket!! Looks massive - but this is the amount I was recommended to feed by A&P. When I first got him he used to get a full scoop (dry) with a massive scoop of Alfa-A. He loves it!

 

[Nocturnal]

In winter when my TB's in work he gets a scoop per feed, twice a day. Not sure half a scoop would be enough. It does swell up a lot when soaked, but it's the dry matter content you have to take into consideration when deciding how much to feed.

 

[Footlights]

I first put mine on this last winter when I had tried everything else to put weight on him and this is the only thing that worked.

He currently has 1 scoop a day and has held his weight really well this winter so far.

Well worth the money in my opinion.

 

[porkpie]

I used to feed my mare on this - she is a 16.2hh TB X and built like a whippet. She did really well on it, but I could never give her the full recommened amount because she found the quantity over faced her and she just walked away from her feed. She has never been a greedy mare. I used to split into 2 feeds and add in Alfa A, but as I coudn't give her the recommended amount I now feed her on Top Spec Comprehensive Balancer - she eats it all because the sheer volume doesn't put her off and she looks really good on it. Can't fault A&P feeds though - I think they're great.

 

[Brandy]

I used to feed it to my TB gelding when I first got him he was very underweight, he had one dry scoop twice a day, along with other stuff. He is now 30yrs old and has A & P veteran vitality instead, and fast fibre.

He choked very badly on the C & C whenI had made my night feed up, unsoaked, in the monrning, for my yard mate to add water and feed P.M. Rather helpfully, someone else decided to do yard mate a favour and feed all of ours, and gave it unsoaked.

Severe choke followed by stress induced colic, refusal to eat or drink, £1000 vet bill. Stopped feeding it then!! Not the feeds fault I know .....

 

[Kenzo]

I can only say what has worked for me in the past with horses that need more condition on (usually TB's..apart from the one I have now that is) and yes A&P CC is certainly something I'd recommend as I've found it works well.

I've always soaked it in with my speedibeet to save time and make it easier and given a full heaped scoop in two separate feeds (morning and evening) with plenty chaff, usually Dengie Hi Fi lite or Dengie Alfa A Oil, or mix both together with a glug of oil, Naff pink powder or similar will improve the gut funtion and as of course the most important thing is ab lib quality hay through the day.

It always makes me wonder why people can't understand why their horse is not putting on sufficent weight if there stood around in bare fields all day through the winter (not saying you are btw op, but sometimes this is the case) no amount of bucket feeds with pricey mixes and supplements will sort that out, your just throwing money into a muck barrow basically.

Cider Vinegar as well as being good for the joints and coat will also increase appetite and it's cheap as chips.

 

[skint1]

Worked well last year with our TB mare when she dropped a bit of weight and has been the same with our TB gelding this year, I like it because you can mix a bit of boiled water in it on a cold day and they get a warm food, also you can make sure they get plenty of liquid by making it very sloppy (which we do for our lad)