A towing question..........

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Is a person who has passed their driving test, but a towing test, allowed to tow a trailer with horses in with an experienced person ( who is allowed to tow) sitting next to them?
 

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Sorry... keep re-reading tictac but I still don't get your question... do you mean "not" a towing test?
 

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Sorry... keep re-reading tictac but I still don't get your question... do you mean "not" a towing test?

Sorry Tallyho, it's late and my brain is not functioning properly,

Correct, the person towing the trailer has NOT passed a towing test and for that matter neither has the passenger! ( but she is of an age where she didn't need to)
 

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no it is not like being a learner driver, you need to get a license or be on an official lesson.

and how can it be classed as an official lesson? does the passenger need to be an instructor?

The reason I ask is because I want to get my facts straight before I mention it to the person concerned. Thanks
 

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As long as the supervising driver is entitled to tow (either grandfathered or has passed the B+E test themselves) and has been driving for 3 years then you can tow on your provisional B+E with them supervising you, no problem. (I've checked this with the driving instructor I'm taking towing lessons with because I want to be able to practice towing with my dad, who has not taken a trailer test but was driving well before 1997!)?

So tictac, the answer to your question is yes
 

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I'm not sure... in fact, different regions interpret the laws differently. You should go and ask ROG in the towing clinic in CR.
 

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SUPERVISING A B+E LEARNER
In April 2010 new rules were introduced for those supervising certain learner drivers but they only affected those supervising VOCATIONAL categories such as C1 C1+E D1 & D1+E where the supervising driver had those categories given to them for free when they passed a pre 1997 car test.
They do not affect those with a pre 1997 B+E licence who wish to supervise a B+E learner.
All B licence holders have B+E provisional on the paper part of their licence and can tow an empty or loaded trailer on all roads including motorways.
The usual rules apply when a learner is driving -
The supervising driver must be aged over 21
The supervising driver must have held a B+E licence for at least 3 years
L plates must be fitted to the front of the vehicle and the rear of the trailer
Correct insurance for a B+E learner

Many will find that passing the once in a lifetime B+E test is their best option so here is some info on that test:-

The B+E test
No medical or theory test required
Read a number plate from a certain distance
VIDEO - Show Me Tell Me Questions - usually 5
The next three can be in any order:-
VIDEO - Reversing Exercise (old measurements) - done in test centre grounds if test conducted from practical test centre - some tests are now being done from training school grounds
VIDEO - Uncouple/couple up - done in test centre grounds if test conducted from practical test centre - some tests are now being done from training school grounds
One hour road drive - includes the independent drive and is done virtually the same as the basic car test

DISCLAIMER - I have no connection to any companies which may be featured in those videos
 

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I thought the supervising person had to have passed their test, not have grandfather rights. Will be interested to see what the legal answer actually is
 

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Sorry Tallyho, it's late and my brain is not functioning properly,

Correct, the person towing the trailer has NOT passed a towing test and for that matter neither has the passenger! ( but she is of an age where she didn't need to)
Stangely, I knew exactly what you were asking in your fist post - and I have not been drinking or smoking weed !! :D
 

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I thought the supervising person had to have passed their test, not have grandfather rights. Will be interested to see what the legal answer actually is

I already put it in this thread near the bottom of page 1

If you are looking for a law that says - A pre 1997 B+E driver CAN supervise then you will be unlucky because there is not such a law

There are laws telling a driver what they CANNOT do

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Dear ************

Thank you for your email received on 3/1/12.Your email reference number is 808399


In order to drive a vehicle andtrailer under category B + E you must be supervised by a driverwith the full B + E entitlement

This can be a driver who passed adriving test before 1997 and holds full B + E.

The trailer can be laden.

You must display L plates.

I hope this helps.


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