achieving outline in trot.... why does this help?

[NeverSayNever]

my new horse worked fairly consistently with his old owners in a nice outline. im finding it a little more difficult to get the right button, but if i go sitting trot, *ping* it happens... why would that be?

 

[melxvengeance]

possibly because that's how the horse was trained. i would imagine that you don't feel the same to his previous rider so he's still feeling you out, the same as a rider has to feel a new horse out too, it works both ways. i would suggest just spending time working him in the school and asking gently for an outline, maybe do lots of sitting trot and first and try and pin-point exactly what you're doing that makes him go into an outline, if that makes any sense. i would also suggest speaking to the horses' old owners, if you are still in touch to see what training methods and little tips they could offer.
i hope i helped, lol and good luck

 

[NeverSayNever]

possibly because that's how the horse was trained. i would imagine that you don't feel the same to his previous rider so he's still feeling you out, the same as a rider has to feel a new horse out too, it works both ways. i would suggest just spending time working him in the school and asking gently for an outline, maybe do lots of sitting trot and first and try and pin-point exactly what you're doing that makes him go into an outline, if that makes any sense.
i hope i helped, lol and good luck

yes, definitely thank you. his trot is dreamy to sit to, and i wonder if i am sitting taller and stiller than when im rising tbh.

 

[melxvengeance]

it could even be something to do with your balance, weight etc. maybe the previous rider wasn't as balanced and even in their seat as you, or the other way around, hence why you feel different and aren't quite applying the right aid, you know horses...they can be funny bisms sometimes!

 

[Louby]

Possibly because in sitting trot you use your leg more. A true outline is achieved riding from leg to hand so if in rising trot your leg isnt as secure and on, he wont be in a proper outline.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

my new horse worked fairly consistently with his old owners in a nice outline. im finding it a little more difficult to get the right button, but if i go sitting trot, *ping* it happens... why would that be?

Because you sit better in sitting trot.

You obviously can do it, it will just take more practice. Get yourself a good instructor.

 

[NeverSayNever]

Because you sit better in sitting trot.

You obviously can do it, it will just take more practice. Get yourself a good instructor.

thanks. i do have a very good instructor

 

[Steorra]

It's so interesting, learning to ride a new horse! Lucky you.

A nicely trained horse should collect from a half halt that comes from the legs and seat, and that only involves a delicate feel down the reins. When you go into sitting trot you could be replicating her previous owner's 'collect' aid with your legs and seat without realising.

 

[JustMe22]

Probably because you sit stiller and deeper in sitting trot. I often find I'll school in sitting trot (though not on mine)..it sometimes seems to help in that I can use more leg but because there's no rising I seem to find it easier to use each aid independently of another..one less thing to focus on or something?
I've no idea :rollseyes: I'm not even entirely sure why I posted on this, not much help was I?

 

[lexiedhb]

Probably because you sit deeper, and push the horse forward more, it is much easier for a horse to work correctly if it is going forwards!