I was going to go too but have to go to a wedding instead. I would have to sit on my hands if I did go! My trainer is hoping to buy one - not sure which.
You obviously did'nt see what she was like the last time she was presented!!!!! I think Vemp is pretty special.
Saying all that and having been to Germany 3 times this year to buy at auction i know that such occations are a 'sellers' market and you are paying about 30% over the odds.
They are good to give you an idea and maybe make contacts but for me thats it. I've had some big dissapointments.
i like Vemps breeding - the picture is not good tho, hes really hold onto her head.......I like to see a more relaxed picture with them softer through the neck, just my view tho!
Oh dear. No, I didn't know anything about her. Just a pretty picture.
I enjoy going to auctions to watch and learn, and make contacts. I have only bought once at auction and was burned, and don't think that I am experienced enough to do it again.
Interesting what you say about 30% over the odds. I was looking at the results of a recent German auction online (can't remember which one, sorry) and noticed that most horses seemed to go for around EU8000-12000 - not a huge amount for their quality (at least on video). Horses like that are commonly advertised for £20k+ in H&H.
Ah but Kay always picks and produces horses really well. I often send people in her dirrection.Would still rather buy outside this environment, all too easy to get caught up with the occation and loose perspective. Its amazing how competitive we can become when we want something!!!
I bought what seemed to be a stunning bay mare at auction once. She was fully vetted etc, and I tried her and watched her and she seemed absolutely fine- nice moving, well started, sound and sane. She wasn't. I had a nightmare with that horse and tried to get her refunded (and failed). Perhaps very experienced buyers would have a nose for horses like that. I didn't. However, this was years ago and I think the quality of horses coming forward to auctions like this has improved (or maybe I am terribly naive).
im surprised Kay is selling him at auction actually, as i know she was selling him just through her business. I guess she thinks she'l get more at auction - which i think she probably will.
im seeing her wednesday for a lesson, so shall ask her about him then!!
ive never been to an auction - one of the things on my 'to-do' list - however i think you are right in that there is definately a higher quality of horse coming through these days.
i read about the foreign auctions on eurodressage, and there seem to be a lot of really good horses going through them now. But then recently abroad the top auction price hasnt been as high as it used to be.....
P_G I want to go back to Verden some time, it was such a fab experience - you'll have to come!
I'm quite tempted to go and visit this auction as well. Not that I'd ever buy anything at auction, just because I'll bet it's a good day out!
Its very odd the Oldenburg auction [elite] was very hit and miss. I really liked a horse but the xrays were not good and i was not prepared to take the risk, especially as he had been presented before.
The top price horse, a lovely Grey gelding was lovely but i would not have spent the money on him. He only had one trot, admitidly huge but he lacked gears, if you know what i mean.On the whole the adverage price was reasonable. This was also the case for the Hanoverian auction.
At the Westphalian auction the prices were mental quite 'normal' horses going for E70,000+ with the top price being in excess of E230,000!!!!! Thats crazy.
230,000 - eeekkk. That's silly money. Was the horse really that special?
Why do you think the prices at the Westphalian auction went so high when a lot of other recent auctions seemed more reasonable?
Another (possibly stupid) question - I have always wondered who does the riding at these auctions? Are the riders hired by the auctioneers, or can the vendors appoint their own riders?
I think (im probably wrong) that the riders are hired by the auctioners.
I remember when i was watching the DVD of an auction once with Kay she was talking about how she knew one of the guys riding a stallion. She then said that he rode especially in auctions - so that was his job to go to auction houses and ride the horses.
I dont know if thats the case for all auctions tho - would be a great job to do tho wouldnt it (well, if the horses were all well behaved that is!)
Most of the auction houses have a small group of fully employed riders, usually the one's you see in the photos.
The 'training' period before ,say the 'elite' auctions which is usually a 4-6 week period all told , they then invite young riders or other invited riders.
I was invited to do this at the Verden Elite auction , i was under the watchful eye of Dr Ulf Moller , all the centers have their riding master and he watches all training and train s the riders as well.
It is a huge and exhausting learning curve. Well worth it and it certainly makes you realise breed characturistics.
At Brightwells all the agents have their riders, i particulerly like the ones Ulrich Keuter uses their training is usually a lot better. The Dutch horses are often very 'raw' and not always the best prepared.A pity as i think the horses are smashing.
id love to go to an auction but i know i would end up buying if something came up i really liked and i cant have any more horses !! well not just yet anyway need to sell a few !
I saw destiny's child last time too, and also loved the picture and the bloodlines, but when I saw her in person!!
looked like a different horse!
Partoow! You are soo lucky what an opportunity that must have been, can see how you have got to where you are now! It amazes me the quality of the riders at these auctions they just make the horses melt underneath them and they go like a dream!...one day....!