Advice needed urgently

[WelshCobs]

I have sent my 3 year old filly for breaking, and the lady has said she dosnt think she was swung as a foal. When she is tied up and she goes to put the lines/harness on her she breaks everything.

Obviously swinging a foal is easier than a 3 year old - what should I do??

Any advice would be very vyer much appreciated

Thanks

 

[SunSmile]

This may be a numpty question but what is 'swinging'?

 

[spaniel]

Please tell me this isnt a serious thread...Im old, its not fair to tease a menopausal woman......

 

[bhpride]

swung as a foal? is this something else i don't know about already lol

 

[nobbster]

yes i was going to ask that??????

 

[jojo23]

I thought swinging was when you had an open relationship.

 

[Fizzimyst]

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I thought swinging was when you had an open relationship.

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That made me spit my drink everywhere

I dont know what swinging as a foal is either though

 

[CorvusCorax]

Just Googled it, think it concerns swinging a leadrope near the foal to get it used to lines/ropes.

 

[nobbster]

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I thought swinging was when you had an open relationship.

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loll that is too funny

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[MontyandZoom]

Yeah i thought swinging is where you go to parties to shag other peoples husbands???????

 

[WelshCobs]

Apparently so I have been told the meaning of swinging your foal is when it is a foal tie it up and let it hang itself so it respects being tied up. She says that because she has not been swung as soon as she goes to get on her she will go over?????

I do hope people will help answer my query rather than turn this is in to a joke!!!!

 

[nobbster]

ohh that make more sense hahaha

 

[Fizzimyst]

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Apparently so I have been told the meaning of swinging your foal is when it is a foal tie it up and let it hang itself so it respects being tied up. She says that because she has not been swung as soon as she goes to get on her she will go over?????

I do hope people will help answer my query rather than turn this is in to a joke!!!!

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Being that none of us knew what it meant we couldnt give you any advice!!!!

 

[china]

i think you need to send her some where else as i have never heard anyone say anything like that?!? it shouldnt make a difference in my opinion.

 

[WelshCobs]

I have come on here for some help not to have the Piss took out of the situation - what a friendly bunch you lot are!!!

 

[rushyj]

Think i found it... It involves swinging a rope past a foals nose to make it back up.... see quote below.... must admit I have never swung a foal in my life.......oh the shame I will hand you over to an expert.......

"I know that every horse has a different personality, and I'm not saying that the "backing up" method works "just so" for every horse. It's just what has worked for my beasties!

What you'll need: halter, long lead, and lots of love (and patience!).
How to do it? After you have the halter and lead on your baby, you're standing on the left side at its shoulder, slowly (*very* slowly) begin to swirl the rope in front of its face. Get more vigorous in your swinging until the foal steps back. When the foal steps back, immediately stop swining the rope. Keep this up until your foal responds to your cue (lifting lead as if you're about to swirl) backs up without further ado.

If you are vigorously swinging the rope in front of your foal's face and the little booger doesn't budge, start to slowly edge closer to your foals muzzle area and sometimes it is necessary to let the lead hit the foal. I know it sounds rather harsh, but don't back off until the foal backs up. The foal needs to learn to respond to the slightest pressure, and hitting him "strong" with the rope is better than hitting him lightly.

The foal will react quicker and in the future won't wait for you to get "tougher" on him. When you tell a horse to do something, and he knows what is supposed to be done you should have immediate reaction to your command. "

 

[spaniel]

Ok, in brief you get a serious headcollar, put it on the horse, get a big rope or a chain, attach the horse via the rope to an immovable object and let it pull till it gives up pulling. Really not the sort of thing nyone should be doing, especially to a foal.

 

[SunSmile]

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Apparently so I have been told the meaning of swinging your foal is when it is a foal tie it up and let it hang itself so it respects being tied up. She says that because she has not been swung as soon as she goes to get on her she will go over?????

I do hope people will help answer my query rather than turn this is in to a joke!!!!

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Have i read this right or is she going to get on it whilst it is tied up

To be perfectly honest and blunt and this is my genuine opinion i would sent her elsewhere to be broken!
I have never ever heard of 'swinging' a foal and having weaned and halter broken a fair few foals i would never use this method, there are far better ways of teaching a foal/young horse to be tied up and broken in. None of which encourage it to break its neck whilst tied up for the first time.

 

[Rowreach]

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Apparently so I have been told the meaning of swinging your foal is when it is a foal tie it up and let it hang itself so it respects being tied up. She says that because she has not been swung as soon as she goes to get on her she will go over?????

I do hope people will help answer my query rather than turn this is in to a joke!!!!

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I would remove my horse from this "lady" and send it to someone who knows what they are talking about.

 

[Fizzimyst]

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I have come on here for some help not to have the Piss took out of the situation - what a friendly bunch you lot are!!!

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Actually, people on this forum are extremly helpful and knowlegable!

We didnt know what you meant. People use different terms. So what if someone cracked a joke and people laughed at it?! God forbid people have a sense of humour!

I am sure someone will answer your query, no need to be so defensive

 

[jojo23]

Hear, hear fizzymyst. SOH essential when you have horses.

 

[BBH]

If this is not a troll post then my advice is to remove the foal and send her to someone more enlightened. Things that go wrong at such a young age can stay with an animal for life.

 

[*hic*]

I'd be getting myself over there and getting her back as soon as possible.

Then I'd send her to someone a bit more sensitive. If you can't find anyone locally I can give you the name of the person who did a fantastic gentle job of breaking my little mare.

 

[Woody78]

Personally I do not see why she has to tie her up to put lines/things on? Loads of horses are not tied up until this age and, swingers apart, I really do not think that these days many foals would be tied up and then wait for it to dangle from the rope. I dont think she is referring to the swinging the rope thing, which I find bizarre and am not entirely sure what it is supposed to achieve.

How long have you had her and do you tie her up?

I would be inclined to send her to someone else unless you know this person well?

 

[josiesmithuk]

I thought the world had moved on along way from the days of swinging youngstock. It was a horrible practise IMO and I wouldn't allow any of mine to be swung.

x x

 

[nobbster]

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Apparently so I have been told the meaning of swinging your foal is when it is a foal tie it up and let it hang itself so it respects being tied up. She says that because she has not been swung as soon as she goes to get on her she will go over?????

I do hope people will help answer my query rather than turn this is in to a joke!!!!

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I would remove my horse from this "lady" and send it to someone who knows what they are talking about.

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i agreeeee i would defently move my horse i would not want her strangled there are other ways of teaching her even at 3, i had to teach my boy who was a wild pony not handled and he was 3.

 

[Fizzimyst]

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I thought the world had moved on along way from the days of swinging youngstock. It was a horrible practise IMO and I wouldn't allow any of mine to be swung.

x x

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This will probably be why I havent heard of it then

Mine both tie up just fine and I've had them both since foals. There was no swinging a rope in front of their faces. Okay so they both untie themselves and stand there looking pleased with themselfs, Figs sometimes swings the rope himself, maybe he feels he missed out

 

[Ruth_Cymru]

I agree with Rowreach.
I cannot see why a horse that has not had this done to it would not be able to be backed, and personally do not like the sound of 'swinging' a foal, I can't see why it would be of any benefit.
Ask around your area for a reputable person. Do you know of anyone else who has had their horse backed that could suggest someone?

 

[the watcher]

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I thought the world had moved on along way from the days of swinging youngstock. It was a horrible practise IMO and I wouldn't allow any of mine to be swung.

x x

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I agree, i have heard of this but would never do it - the danger of damage to the neck is too high in my view, apart from not being very humane anyway. It is very possible to train a horse that has not been 'swung', and it is very rarely done these days by credible trainers.

Find someone better for your youngster.

 

[welshied]

A horse that hasn't been swung is one that hasn't been broken in properly but surely the person that is breaking her can start off with that!?