Advice on what breed to get !

Rotties were originally bred as cattle dogs Mister Ted, not sure if you are aware of that. And good job you would rather have a bite from a terrier because statistics show that is far more likely to happen than being bitten by a large guarding breed.
 
Mister Ted said:
As for the comment about rottweilers I would be reporting that to the police for having them unmuzzled in a public place. Many children these days are scared of dogs through the stories of dog attacks and will give off signals of fear.A pack of dogs off lead unmuzzled beggars belief.
Its not to do with the training its what the breed was bred for in the first place that has to be taken into account and the outlet to fulfill that need.If a rottweiler did decide to attack certainly a human with a lead couldnt stop it.I would rather have a bite from a terrier thank you.
I am a dog owner and lover and of course have whatever dog you wish but read Ceaser Milan dog books and you will get a good idea of dogs and their lifestyle needs and how you can be the best "pack leader".
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Good grief......

ETA: Children have no natural fear of dogs, they are frightened of dogs because of the behaviours they see from adults around them. It is just the same as a horse (or a dog) spooking at something because the rider has tensed up and thought 'OMG he is going to react to that'.
 
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Mister Ted said:
I cant see how the average rider can fully control their dog with other people and horses and often children around while on horseback.I have been at three yards and the dogs have either made the horses nearly bolt,attacked other dogs and caused total annoyance to the innocent walkers who happened to be passing.Its simply a selfish "Look at me I have a horse and control fancy dogs too"attitude.
When a dog lunged at my horse nearly causing it to take off the owner grabbed it and sensibly kept it in the car and she has the sense to do this each time even though it is a very friendly dog at the yard.
As for the comment about rottweilers I would be reporting that to the police for having them unmuzzled in a public place. Many children these days are scared of dogs through the stories of dog attacks and will give off signals of fear.A pack of dogs off lead unmuzzled beggars belief.
Its not to do with the training its what the breed was bred for in the first place that has to be taken into account and the outlet to fulfill that need.If a rottweiler did decide to attack certainly a human with a lead couldnt stop it.I would rather have a bite from a terrier thank you.
I am a dog owner and lover and of course have whatever dog you wish but read Ceaser Milan dog books and you will get a good idea of dogs and their lifestyle needs and how you can be the best "pack leader".
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This is utter nonsense. Rottweilers are not required to be muzzled in a public place. MY ROTTWEILER IS A PETS as THERAPY temperament assessed dog who has visited children, the elderly and is on a register to help psychologist working with people (including autistic children) with severe dog phobias. He is also used by my local dog warden to educate children in schools about dog and animal care. He also has a a gold level good citizenship award.

Cesar Milan is a cruel, old fashioned uneducated idiot.

Furthermore my horses are properly trained and bombproof with dogs as any hunter would be.
 
Mister Ted said:
I cant see how the average rider can fully control their dog with other people and horses and often children around while on horseback.I have been at three yards and the dogs have either made the horses nearly bolt,attacked other dogs and caused total annoyance to the innocent walkers who happened to be passing.Its simply a selfish "Look at me I have a horse and control fancy dogs too"attitude.
When a dog lunged at my horse nearly causing it to take off the owner grabbed it and sensibly kept it in the car and she has the sense to do this each time even though it is a very friendly dog at the yard.
As for the comment about rottweilers I would be reporting that to the police for having them unmuzzled in a public place. Many children these days are scared of dogs through the stories of dog attacks and will give off signals of fear.A pack of dogs off lead unmuzzled beggars belief.
Its not to do with the training its what the breed was bred for in the first place that has to be taken into account and the outlet to fulfill that need.If a rottweiler did decide to attack certainly a human with a lead couldnt stop it.I would rather have a bite from a terrier thank you.
I am a dog owner and lover and of course have whatever dog you wish but read Ceaser Milan dog books and you will get a good idea of dogs and their lifestyle needs and how you can be the best "pack leader".
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WOW

the OP says nothing about having a pack of rabid hounds running amock looking for innocent children to snaffle up for a snack but has inquired as to which breed might be good to accompany them whilst riding their horse and if my memory is right then it is not public land they will be on.
what do you think the police will do about an unmuzzled rottie?
 
Picklenash said:
Typical response of someone who has no answer to the clear, valid explanations given - resort to insults :p
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Well said Picklenash - we were all having a friendly, responsible and knowledgeable discussion in response to a sensible OP. You are lowering the tone. Maybe start a new thread on dog phobias Mister Ted....
 
Mister Ted said:
I cant see how the average rider can fully control their dog with other people and horses and often children around while on horseback.I have been at three yards and the dogs have either made the horses nearly bolt,attacked other dogs and caused total annoyance to the innocent walkers who happened to be passing.Its simply a selfish "Look at me I have a horse and control fancy dogs too"attitude.
When a dog lunged at my horse nearly causing it to take off the owner grabbed it and sensibly kept it in the car and she has the sense to do this each time even though it is a very friendly dog at the yard.
As for the comment about rottweilers I would be reporting that to the police for having them unmuzzled in a public place. Many children these days are scared of dogs through the stories of dog attacks and will give off signals of fear.A pack of dogs off lead unmuzzled beggars belief.
Its not to do with the training its what the breed was bred for in the first place that has to be taken into account and the outlet to fulfill that need.If a rottweiler did decide to attack certainly a human with a lead couldnt stop it.I would rather have a bite from a terrier thank you.
I am a dog owner and lover and of course have whatever dog you wish but read Ceaser Milan dog books and you will get a good idea of dogs and their lifestyle needs and how you can be the best "pack leader".
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If that was meant as a clarification, it just made me more confused. :confused3: :confused3: So basically you weren't talking only about dogs of guard dog breeds, without you think that most riders can't control both a horse and any type of dog at the same time.

And even though RaynerK very clearly said "I have four dogs all off lead and one of them is ....a ROTTWEILER", and that "if you confront him you may be licked to death", you say that "As for the comment about rottweilers I would be reporting that to the police for having them unmuzzled in a public place."

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I would like to be a fly on the wall when you try and report that to the police, regardless if the hypothetical situation is that you simply saw one Rottweiler together with 3 other dogs off lead, and wants to report that it was unmuzzled, or if you try to report that you went over to the off lead, unmuzzled Rottweiler, confronted him, and he licked you.
 
Mister Ted said:
I cant see how the average rider can fully control their dog with other people and horses and often children around while on horseback.I have been at three yards and the dogs have either made the horses nearly bolt,attacked other dogs and caused total annoyance to the innocent walkers who happened to be passing.Its simply a selfish "Look at me I have a horse and control fancy dogs too"attitude.
When a dog lunged at my horse nearly causing it to take off the owner grabbed it and sensibly kept it in the car and she has the sense to do this each time even though it is a very friendly dog at the yard.
As for the comment about rottweilers I would be reporting that to the police for having them unmuzzled in a public place. Many children these days are scared of dogs through the stories of dog attacks and will give off signals of fear.A pack of dogs off lead unmuzzled beggars belief.
Its not to do with the training its what the breed was bred for in the first place that has to be taken into account and the outlet to fulfill that need.If a rottweiler did decide to attack certainly a human with a lead couldnt stop it.I would rather have a bite from a terrier thank you.
I am a dog owner and lover and of course have whatever dog you wish but read Ceaser Milan dog books and you will get a good idea of dogs and their lifestyle needs and how you can be the best "pack leader".
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Please stay indoors in bubble wrap and ensure all sharp edges are sanded down. But you're right i want a dog to 'show off' despite being on my own private land with no people for miles and miles and miles. You will be happy to know if you do ever stumble across me and my 'dangerous' dog out on our land it will be me on horseback you will be more worried about.


P.s if you reported a rottweiler to the police... for being a rottweiler they would laugh at you.

Certainly some fantastic advice on this thread, although i shall ignore your narrow minded comments

Ticker.
 
Mister Ted has actually really tickled me. I'm just picturing my Rotti getting arrested for shop lifting a sausage roll or something lol :)
 
RaynerK said:
Mister Ted has actually really tickled me. I'm just picturing my Rotti getting arrested for shop lifting a sausage roll or something lol :)
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If non of these rescues work out our second choice was a rotti, had one when i was a child i have fond memories of feeding him the food i didn't want from my dinner, riding round the garden on the poor sods back and curling up in his bed despite my mothers grumbling. They remind me of big cuddly bears, and i can tell you now they will be attending all the right puppy classes, ill have my OH's dog trainer friends at my beck and call should i need them. We are after making a happy, friendly family dog and non of this is for status or whatever Mister Ted was implying :)
 
ticker said:
If non of these rescues work out our second choice was a rotti, had one when i was a child i have fond memories of feeding him the food i didn't want from my dinner, riding round the garden on the poor sods back and curling up in his bed despite my mothers grumbling. They remind me of big cuddly bears, and i can tell you now they will be attending all the right puppy classes, ill have my OH's dog trainer friends at my beck and call should i need them. We are after making a happy, friendly family dog and non of this is for status or whatever Mister Ted was implying :)
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Quite. You don't have to justify yourself to anyone, I have worked in Dangerous Dogs kennel for the police (which makes his comments even more amusing to me) and it is obvious to me and anyone else you are a sensible prospective owner. I would rise above it.
 
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