ADVICE PLEASE ..IM BEEN CONNED !!

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bought a horse outside the ring at a horse sale as horse didnt reach its reserve
horse was being sold as good in traffic ,done everything ie xc,sj and dressage

vendor delivered it for me and i paid him cash .rode it out on day two and it freaked at a tractor and made a bad noise in its wind
contacted vendor day 3 ,horse not as described ,shock horror its never done that before !! asked him to take it back,as not as described ....."will ring you back"
day 5 ,horse not sound ,asked vet to come and look ,vet said "horse not right in hocks,wrong in wind and not fit for purpose ....tried to talk to vendor ..no response
phoned bhs helpline ,misrepresentation they said
phoned trading standards,"is vendor a dealer ", ummmm no private seller
phoned equine solicitor ,BUYER BEWARD SHE SAID
i believe horse was full of bute ,i know vendor ,believed him to be an honest man and took his word that horse was right
HOW WRONG WAS I ....Contacted him today and tried to have a civil conversation with him ,thought i had resolved matter ,then post came ,letter from him " speak to me through my solicitor "
any advice ?????????????????
 
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So you bought a horse at an auction, I'm guessing cheaply if it doesn't reach its reserve, didn't have it vetted, and are not having problems? Much as I feel sorry for you, it sounds like a classic of what could go wrong when buying at auction. Was the horse warranted? Even if it was, I guess it is not an auction issue as it was a private sale, or I would say contact the auctions.

I guess your only way forward is to contact his solicitor through one of your own and see what happens.. I wouldn't hold your breath though, and it will cost you even more, as you've already had a lot of advice that have basically said there isn't much to be done...
 
Did you pay a lot for the horse?

Agree with other advice, put it out of it's misery and sorry you have been conned...
 
I would think as you bought outside the ring you have no warranty, thus no come back. Very hard lesson learnt, sad situation for the horse.

This sort of story really pees me in that people would rather take a horse to a sale than do right by the animal to make a few quid.
 
If you buy outside the ring in a car park deal as far as I'm concerned you take your chances, you win some you loose some ...
 
Have this horse put down.

Go to a good riding school for a few lessons and at the same time save up a good budget.

When instructor thinks you are ready to get a horse have them go with you to try horses and help you find a suitable one.
 
Honey08 said:
So you bought a horse at an auction, I'm guessing cheaply if it doesn't reach its reserve, didn't have it vetted, and are not having problems? Much as I feel sorry for you, it sounds like a classic of what could go wrong when buying at auction. Was the horse warranted? Even if it was, I guess it is not an auction issue as it was a private sale, or I would say contact the auctions.

I guess your only way forward is to contact his solicitor through one of your own and see what happens.. I wouldn't hold your breath though, and it will cost you even more, as you've already had a lot of advice that have basically said there isn't much to be done...
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horse was warranted if bought through auctionneers,spoke to them ,they have had previous problems with same vendor but obviously didnt stop him selling ..
horse wasnt dirt cheap if fact 3k ,vendor is local to me and knows me through showing etc
have tried to solve issues as vendor has said nothing wrong with horse ,offered it him back at less than i paid ,thinking as he said it was genuine but no response
 
OP the wind problem tbh I wouldn't worry about, iv had 2 horses with wind problems and hunted and xc both they aren't that bad honest. What was said about his hocks? I'm guessing he was cheap in which case can u not just give him a bit off time and see how it goes?
I buy from autions some times and although I have been lucky, you have to be so carefull. Poor horse and I hope u can make some good through this :)
 
Didnt u buy outside the ring? In which case u have no come back. Cor £3000 from a sell ring,I pay £500 max and had some decent horses.
 
Sorry you've been conned, but going after a dodgy private seller when you buy normally is usually difficult, let alone if you bought from an auction car park. Only advice is if the horse can be made good for the same money a decent one would cost, sort it. If not get it pts. Buying private or reputable dealer at a yard next time, take someone experienced & get it vetted. Sales aren't for novice buyers unsupervised.
 
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Have this horse put down.

Go to a good riding school for a few lessons and at the same time save up a good budget.

When instructor thinks you are ready to get a horse have them go with you to try horses and help you find a suitable one.
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flame ,putting the horse down !!! are you serious ??

oh and fyi im not 12 ,i dont need lessons ,as have my AI

THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS !!!
 
Without being awful I think this vendor saw you coming. Just because you paid 3k for a horse doesn't make it worth that, what I am interested in is if you had 3k to spend then why do some dodgy deal!? You could have bought a lovely horse via a legitimate and safe route! Sadly you paid over the odds for a knackered horse, and if you pursue the legal route then bear in mind that it will end up costing you a lot more money too. If I were you I would have the poor horse put down and out of it's misery and learn from your mistake, auctions are no place for novices or the naive.
FYI euthanasing a horse is a painless and quick procedure, it is certainly a lot kinder than keeping an ill animal alive and in pain, and it sounds like this poor horse is suffering.
 
I hope your new horse comes right, I assume that you felt some level of trust as you knew the person...I can see how this would happen.

It sounds like you do not have a comeback....what are you doing next? is there any chance of him coming sound?
 
I am not sure what to advise, must be a nightmare for you. It is a shame people are not honest, but they are not. I hope you can sort something out.
We bought my late mare outside the ring as she did not make her reserve, I was lucky, had my horse of a lifetime but it is a risk buying at auction, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I am just very sorry you have lost, must be a nightmare
 
i know how you feel this recently happened to me, under similar but also different circumstances. please see my post under Lameness in the new posts thingy (sorry im new at this!) i am also looking for help/opinions and not to be slagged off or get called names, or put up with sarcasm. its not a nice place to be!
 
magoodle said:
flame ,putting the horse down !!! are you serious ?? Yes, its got health and behavior problems according to you. If you understandably don't want it, why on earth would anybody else?

oh and fyi im not 12 ,i dont need lessons ,as have my AI OK sorry. :)

THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS !!!
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No worries.
 
Wow - some harsh replies! does everyone need to start on wine and chocs and cheer up a bit!....no I am not a fluffy bunny (well not really:D)
 
What exactly did the vet mean by "not right in his hocks"? Could he be rested, or treated? I don't see why people are saying "put down"! We don't even know what the problem is.

I still think it is naive to pay that much outside a sales ring - anyone putting a horse in a sale usually does so for a reason..
 
The first thing to do is phone the auctioneers and ask where you can see a copy of their Conditions of Sale. I suspect the sale should have been notified to the auctioneers even thought it was "private" but on their premises. At the very least, you could make a problem for the seller -- which I, personally, would do. Cheat me and I will do my very best to (legally) return the favour! You will not gain any brownie points for doing a private sale unless the auctioneer said something like "See the seller" when the horse did not make its reserve and they were notified of the subsequent bargain.

I've a copy of The Institute of Auctioneers and Appraisers in Scotland Conditions of Sale here (probably not a lot different in England) which reads as follows, "Private Sales:.......The usual commission shall be paid on, and these conditions shall apply to, all sales by private bargain whether carried through on or off the premises occupied or used by the auctioneers, or whether effected by the auctioneers or the exposer or the representatives of either, all which sales the seller and buyer shall intimate to and pass through the books of the auctioneer". From that I would assume the Conditions of Sale apply even to a private sale on the auction premises, so I wouldn't give up just yet. It seems there was a warranty. A slim glimmer of hope and not much more I fear, but....
 
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