After a bit of advice re: purchasing loan horse when owner being difficult...

Linzi1

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I'm posting this on behalf of a friend of mine as she is rather upset about the situation...

She has had a horse on full loan for 6 years now. In these 6 years the 'owner' of the horse has come to see the horse maybe 3/4 times, no phone calls about how he is, didnt ask about him depsite friend and 'owner' being quite good friends. Before my friend had taken this horse on loan he had been on loan to another home so all in all the 'owner' has not had the horse for maybe 8/9 years.
About 4 months ago friend said that she was going to see about buying him or having him signed over to her. I think this came about after the 'owner' said that if friend gave the horse back she would have to have him put down. Around the same time 'owner' was pregnant, she has several horses and asked friend to take another of the horses on part loan (£300 a month, 3 days per week, plus had to do all chores etc on those days, no competing, only able to school at home) which friend was considering as seemed to be good oppurtunity to ride higher level dressage horse and she even tried to get a sharer in to help with first loan horse to help with the money side of things. Anyway, it didnt all come together, friend decided that loan horse was more than enough for what she wants to do, and from what I can see the 'owner' has now got the right hump because friend didnt take this second horse and now she has approached her about buying the loan horse the 'owner' is being very difficult.
'Owner' is very much a dressage rider, and doesnt like jumping and in the last 6 months friend has moved yards with the horse, has a new support system, and has started jumping (this was run by the owner first which she ok'd. Not big, maybe 2ft-2ft3 course, once a week, but both her and the horse LOVE what they are doing)

ANYWAY - friend approached 'owner', appears that it is actually her father who owns the horse. Father is happy for horse to be signed over to good home for life where he is loved etc... father is currently out of the country for a few weeks. Since father has been out of the country the 'owner' has been bombarding friend with phone calls and texts saying that she needs to look around and find out how much horses like him are going for and then they will go from there. Then threw into the equation 'oh, and he has DJD in his hocks and arthritis' which has never been mentioned in the previous 6 years.
Horse is 17 yrs old, has never been schooled to a high level - will go out and do prelim dressage, jump a 2ft6 course, safe to hack, usual 'riding club' type. Has had navicular 4/5 yrs ago which was quite bad but which he is now not on any meds for. Horse also had colic several years ago and friend paid the £500 that insurance did not cover and the father had said at that point that would cover it if friend wanted to purchase horse.

I am so sorry for the long story but thought bit of background may be useful - I know my opinion on what I would be doing but would be grateful for any other opinions/anyone else been in similar situation.....
 

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Would only pay a minimal amount for horse with that history, maybe wait till father back in country and write him a letter explaining situation, above all sounds like some patience will be required to get it resolved but best of luck to your friend. Hope she gets to keep/own her loan horse and it all gets resolved amicably :)
 

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Mmm, that's all a bit identifiable isn't it. You may find your friend has the decision taken out of her hands:eek:

And after all that I didn't really understand what you were asking.
 

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As your friend has had him for 6 years on loan she will know that the DJD doesn't appear to be affecting him.

I would be asking the father to sign the horse over for a token £1. Trying to deal with the daughter who is trying to get at your friend for not taking on the second horse isn't going to get her anywhere I don't think.

Do they have any loan agreement and if so did that include anything about being given first refusal to purchase at 'x' price or anything?
 

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I think the DJD is your friends trump card (if he does actually have it) A 17yr old horse with DJD - you wouldn't touch it with a barge pole unless to give it a retirement home. I think the owner may of shot herself in the foot there.
 

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Would only pay a minimal amount for horse with that history, maybe wait till father back in country and write him a letter explaining situation, above all sounds like some patience will be required to get it resolved but best of luck to your friend. Hope she gets to keep/own her loan horse and it all gets resolved amicably :)

As your friend has had him for 6 years on loan she will know that the DJD doesn't appear to be affecting him.

I would be asking the father to sign the horse over for a token £1. Trying to deal with the daughter who is trying to get at your friend for not taking on the second horse isn't going to get her anywhere I don't think.

Do they have any loan agreement and if so did that include anything about being given first refusal to purchase at 'x' price or anything?

I think the DJD is your friends trump card (if he does actually have it) A 17yr old horse with DJD - you wouldn't touch it with a barge pole unless to give it a retirement home. I think the owner may of shot herself in the foot there.




Many many thanks for your replies. I had thought exactly the same, but you know when you start to question yourselves!!!! I have told her to take a step back, wait until the father is back and then go from there.


Many thanks again :)
 

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oh what a sorry tale. I am sure most would concur that from what you have written your friend should be sold the horse for a £1. She has paid a big vet bill and in this climate with his history at 17 years old the horse is worth peanuts.

Horrible situation. This story is the reason I hate loaning so much - personally I couldn'tdo it. The 'owner' sounds like no friend to me - greedy woman!! Good luck to your friend.
 
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