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Does anyone feed A&P L mix? My 15.1hh 12yr very good doer mare is out 24 /7 on fairly weedy and mossy grazing about 3 acres between 2. Over the winter she has put on weight and I think it's because I added top spec comp balancer albeit half rations as suggested with a mug of fast fibre. I like top spec because with other horses I have had it has worked really - however it obviously works just too well on this mare!

Because of poor grazing which provides plenty of fibre at the moment but probably not much else i suspect, they both will need a broad spectrum vit min supplement (my little welsh chap is 19 yrs). As the TS is way too much iwas looking at A&P L mix as both horses would be ideal suspects for lami so it would support this and get their vits and mins into them. They get a slice or two of hay in theIr field shelter as a token but it seems pointless to waste money on expensive hay when they are grazing 24/7 so their fibre intake is good. I like to give small bucket feed every day as it means they come in to get checked over so it makes sense both practically and finically to ensure their vit and min needs are in the hard feed.

They both need to be out 24/7 but I will restrict grazing by elec fencing come spring (at
which point I will feed soaked hay to provide the fibre) and again I thought l mix might support this restricted grazing and support the hooves etc in case of lami.

So has any one used l mix and can you tell me what the actual make up is and how much you need to feed? (info I have found online doesn't give too much detail and I wil ring their advice line tomorrow but just a bit wary of those on how impartial they are!!!) or should I just stick with fast fibre and no added vits/mins?


So from the lit L mix looks a good option
 
Why don't you just stick to a small amount of Fast Fibre and add a powdered broad spectrum vit/min supplement such as Benevit or Equivite. That way they get all their vit/mins with minimal calories.
 
TGM said:
Why don't you just stick to a small amount of Fast Fibre and add a powdered broad spectrum vit/min supplement such as Benevit or Equivite. That way they get all their vit/mins with minimal calories.
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Agree with this but if you are still unsure then I would call Allen and Page.

If your horses are happy with FF then I would leave them with that. Its a fantastic feed. FF is also suitable for laminitics.
 
I agree with the others, Fast Fibre is supposed to be balanced with vits and mins anyway, and you don't need to feed a huge amount to meet daily requirements and as it is low calorie you could feed that and reduce the amount of hay to compensate if you want your horse to lose weight.

I was feeding Hi-Fi lite and Benevit, but now feed fast fibre on its own with a dash of mag ox, it does the job nicely. :)
 
Hi and thanks for replies! I think I will stick with the ff and get the equivite original using it at half measure as i think the equivite provides more vits and minerals than just ff (mostly around the vits beneficial for good hooves as I am a foot fanatic!)

On that note, touchstone, is that why you feed mag ox? To help with lami? I used to feed it when my mare was barefoot but she really wasn't comfortable hacking out on our very stony gritty terrain so shod her on fronts again so I just stopped using it
 
Jericho said:
Hi and thanks for replies! I think I will stick with the ff and get the equivite original using it at half measure as i think the equivite provides more vits and minerals than just ff (mostly around the vits beneficial for good hooves as I am a foot fanatic!)

On that note, touchstone, is that why you feed mag ox? To help with lami? I used to feed it when my mare was barefoot but she really wasn't comfortable hacking out on our very stony gritty terrain so shod her on fronts again so I just stopped using it
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Hi Jericho, I feed mag ox as she has metabolic issues and is prone to laminitis if not carefully managed. She is a typical native and prone to cresty neck etc. :)
 
I used L Mix for a while on my 15.2 native x lami-risk type and found it a faff, horse wouldn't eat it so I threw most away!

I was told by A & P to feed 1 scoop L mix, soaked in 2 scoops water with a scoop of chaff added! This was WAY too much, nearly a full bucket of feed. I reduced the amount of L mix so had to add a vit/min supplement anyway. But he just picked at it so I gave up.

When soaked the L mix looks like Fast Fibre anyway with a few beans and some chaff added, so i would stick with the fast fibre if that's what you're already feeding.

I am feeding mine HiFi molasses free mixed with TopChop Lite with a vit/min supplement now.

He also did very well on Spillers Cool Fibre which contains all the necessary vits/mins. But it's molassed so makes him fizzy in winter.
 
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