Am I being a bit of a misery or do I have a point?

It would annoy me too. Not that im a property snob or anything but our new livery yard was really quiet when i first moved and now there are four young girls with ponies and three, in particular, are noisy, take over the whole place, constantly have their ponies in the way, etc, etc. It would annoy me even more if they did not officially have ponies kept there! Nothing wrong with having a quiet word with YO.
 
Nope, you not being miserable at all. If you don't have a horse there you do not hang out. If you're a guest fine but only when person is there and to be honest not all the time.

I'm here with my 6 and 1 boarder, sometimes 2 and YO's horses. But YO has 2 nice rentals in addition to his house. I'm in one and then different people have been in the other. One time just after moving here I found a 12 yo girl in my field with the mares and foals. Well I flipped. She was the niece of the other rental. I got her out of the field and it explained in no uncertain terms was she ever to go in with any of my horses. Then went to YO and said he better tell anyone here where my horses are is off limits. No exceptions. That was fine. New people move in and were excited to introduce their 2yo to the horses. Um, nope. And by that I mean wandering around where they please with treats. No and no. I hate to be the misery but at the same time I'm responsible when it all goes pear shaped. I have a barrier that divides my barn from the rest. However, husband did not think it appropriate for me to put a skull and crossbones on there with the words danger! That's a joke by the way.

I think it needs nipped in the bud but depends on what your YO is like. In fairness I pay a good chunk to be here every month so I have no issues not putting up with type of things. I've been here almost 3 years and pay on time. I ask for very little but anything that's going to potentially cost me money and or massive headaches has to be sorted. I try and make sure things are safe and easy for other too.

Terri
 
ditto what equilibrium said, especially about treats. You dont know what is being given to your horse if they are wandering about all the time. I can tell when someone has been at my boy with treats cos he gets all in your face again and nipping at hands and pockets and its not on!
 
No you're not being miserable... no one other than livery clients, and proffessionals employed by said livery clients (vets, farriers etc) should be on the yard unattended by either the yard owner of livery clients.

I would have words with Y/O and in future say to the girls 'sorry girls you're going to have to go now, I need to lock up!' It isn't a kindergarten...
 
I agree totally! You're not being a misery!

We had two lads come round the yard the other week, asking to stroke the horses (fine) - obviously never been around horses, had to ask them to move from behind our girls back legs (she can be a bit handy with those legs! ;)) and one was scared stiff, managed to stroke our big girl with one finger before moving away. They seemed decent lads but I'd never seen them before not even round the estate.
They came to watch us free lunge one of the girls and ended up running away when she came flying upto the gate, snorting like a wild dragon :p:o
They asked if we did riding lessons so I said no, it's only privately owned horses on here. They proceeded to ask 4 other people....then started to ask if they could help.
Now, I don't mind people helping with the jobs but people I've never seen before and don't know them from Adam, it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.
Unfortunately, someone said they could help with his horse, but I've not seen them since. I don't want to feel like I'm being a miseryguts but I don't feel comfortable with strangers walking round when they don't know anybody down there. I know people felt the same about me when I started part loaning Rebel down there, but I explained I was sharing a horse and who with and they got used to me being about and being sensible and I'm still there 10 years later! ;)

K x
 
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You are within your rights and it is not up to you to try to look after these girls. I rather suspect YO doesn't know either and I would be pretty hacked off if non liveries felt they could come and go on our yard. I actually don't see a theft issue but do see a possibility where they could get hurt.. and that would then be 100% the YO's responsibility and liability. Have a chat, ask what her views are. You are the YO's client not the girls. I understand people think it is preferable to the girls hanging around street corners but that is their parents issue and not yours.
 
I must know some miserable YO's because I can't think of one that would tolerate random teenagers socialising on a private yard. Not only would they tell the girls to sling their hook, with varying degrees of politeness, but the livery would most likely get her marching orders too.
It was only a few months ago that a livery on my current yard was given 48 hours notice to leave for bringing various people down in the evenings.


These girls may be lovely and pony mad but they could offer to help on a yard that needs extra hands.
 
I'm sure YO would like to know what's going on as if the kids hurt themselves on her property then she could well be liable. In any case it's a risk I wouldn't want to take.

Also would have a word to YO about security in general as if these kids can just wander onto the yard and you're worried for your saddles etc, then surely ANYONE could wander onto the yard and steal your saddles?
 
Scrooge said:
I'm sure YO would like to know what's going on as if the kids hurt themselves on her property then she could well be liable. In any case it's a risk I wouldn't want to take.

Also would have a word to YO about security in general as if these kids can just wander onto the yard and you're worried for your saddles etc, then surely ANYONE could wander onto the yard and steal your saddles?
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Yep, I agree completely with this.
 
TeamChaser said:
Ok - give it to me straight!! Am I being a bit of a grumpy old bag, or do I have a point?

Have my boys at lovely small yard - not professional livery yard, came across them as they're friends of my sister and seemed ideal solution for my one boy who didn't get on well at bigger yard. Been there for few years and usually only 1 or 2 other livery's there as well as YO's various horses/kids ponies

New livery arrives recently, her horse is next to my 2 with one of YO's horses in 4 stable barn. Owner of livery prob late teens and nice girl, not around that much. Since she arrived though, place seems to have turned into bloody pony club camp! Not sure if they're relatives or family friends but other day about 6 kids (well young teens I guess - I'm quite old ;)) in school with ponies all racing about (1 of which was coughing its guts up - whilst being jumped repeatedly) Good job mine weren't in adjacent field, would of gone nuts! Bit annoying but not my main issue

My issue is these girls turn up at all times even when other livery is not around and wander round like they own the place! I'm finishing doing mine tonight and they just stroll in to barn to see other girls horse but she's not even at yard tonight. I'm not comfortable with kids that I don't know from Adam (whoever he is :D) wandering around where my horses are when no one else is around. These girls don't have horses at the yard so what are they doing there? I have had 2 brand new rungs nicked from the yard a while ago so if my expensive saddles go walk about, I will take issue. I'm not pointing any fingers and hate to be suspicious but to me they have no business being there. Much worse would be if I found they'd been around my horses/fed them anything etc, etc. And how would I know if they're just allowed to come and go as they please?

Tempted to have a word with YO - but am I being a brat??! :D
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Do speak to the YO. These children are minors. If there was an accident the YO could be held responsible and the resulting court case could mean he loses his business.

In any case they should not be allowed to disturb other clients and horses and they certainly shouldn't be handling animals in the absence of the owner.

You are definitely NOT being a brat. You need to nip this in the bud.
 
TeamChaser said:
Indeed - and YO is very reasonable so no problem to have a chat


I don't want to cause ill feeling or be a pain but I am a bit concerned and it seems as though others would feel the same
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I was once on a yard where little pony mad visitors grew into vicious little cows who were endlessly rude to adults, caused mayhem with noise and damage in the American barn, stole feed, tack and money (they were caught at it) and tormented horses, both the ones they were interested in and others which were no concern of theirs.

On a very bad day, after being driven to the edge of reason, one of the livery clients lost it to the point that she grabbed the ring leader by the scruff of the neck and dragged her to the yard office. Yard Manageress was teaching and it took the 15 minutes to the end of the lesson for the LC to calm down to the point that she could speak. We all stood round and watched, open mouthed in awe! The girl was thoroughly scared but got no sympathy at all from the Manageress and the following morning YO summoned the parents and wiped the floor with them. No further problems!

Not suggesting that you should follow suit but it was very satisfying to be a by-stander!
 
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