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Hi just wanted some advice before I go jumping tonight. I am taking my 4yo and another livery's daughter (lets call her R) is taking my 21 yr old pony. R has him on a sort of casual loan basis. We are going to a local unnafilliated show and R's mother and I will jump the triers class on our youngsters. R will also want to jump the triers as she likes to go belting round small jumps (easier to win).
On 2 occasions I have asked her not to do the triers (65 cm), not because i want a better chance of winning (youngster is very green and slow) but because said pony, even at his age jupms round 1m opens easily and has won/placed almost every time out for 10 years.

Am I right to ask her not to do the triers? Its not fair on kids with less able ponies or those who are starting out, my pony is fairly well known and I dont want to be associated with pot hunting BUT there was a tantrum last time I asked R do to a bigger class and I ended up jumping the pony myself.
 
Are there not any kind of restrictions on the smaller class that would make them ineligable?
If the rider is capable of jumping the larger class, and horse is able- I would put my foot down.
 
If she is not confident at higher levels that is one thing, but if she is capable then she ought to be jumping at an appropriate level.
 
i would explain to her that the class is meant for inexperienced horses or riders & that for her to enter takes away the spirit in which the class is meant , if she really wants to do it suggest that she rides h/c so that the real triers don't feel disheartened in having to compete against her
 
Its 'supposed' to be for riders/ponies/horses who have never won anything before. This is a relatively new venue to us so she would probs get away with it, I know someone who regularly wins Triers classes on an ex JA pony!
 
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Time to put your foot down - it's not poor horsemanship to deceive the organisers purely for her own personal glory.
If she wants to compete in triers, let her find another pony.

What does her mother think about it?
Have you considered making a more formal loan arrangement?
 
Thanks everbody, she is perfectly capable of jumping at a much higher level, she just doent like not being able to razz him around a jump off at 100 miles per hour. Her mum has ben fab about it actually, she can be over protective and defensive where R is concerned, but she agrees on this one.
I don't want the loan agreement to become any more formal at the mo, because of his age (21) there may be a time I have to decide that he needs to step down from harder work and I don't feel they should have to accomodate this if they want to jump. Also I still have a hack or an odd SJ class on him when the fancy takes me so the arrangements suit me well
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I agree with Pennyh. from experience it is really disheartening for me to go into the class and do really well only to find that I have been ousted from the placings because someone that should be competing above the beginners level has entered just to collect red rossettes
if she wants to do the class enter her H/C it is only fair
 
One of the great things about horses is that kids learn about sportsmanship ....or they should if people bother to teach them. Tell her to enter a more appropriate class and get the mum to explain why it is wrong to do what she wants to do.

At his age, I'm sure your pony would rather do a sensible bigger round than be booted round a small course at 100mph by some little madam.
 
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