An update..

[BroadfordQueen]

For those who have PMd, and anyone else interested.

Lady failed the vetting yesterday on her flexion test (this was a second vetting, she failed the first one but nobody else could see the lameness..incl some very knowledgable horse people/back specialists) so the potential buyers asked for another vetting with a diff vet, but the same vet came out...). Que alot of, "oh my god what are we going to do"'s. Anyway took her showjumping last night and she was awsome, went double clear and came 3rd (without trying!). So it looks like she is staying, have entered for Solihull ODE next weekend and going to register her with BE. She is NOT lame before anyone accuses us of horse abusing, the vet said it is more of a gait abnormality than anything, but honestly noone else can see it!

So this means that we can't afford the grey horse that I so desprately fell in love with. Am so gutted, got NO sleep last night, cried alot... but thats life, got over it now and learnt to live with it.

So now we are thinking, what do we do? We have stable space and enough money to buy a nice youngster and bring it on over the winter for next season (abit like we are doing with Lady, but a bigger horse that I can keep forever). Or, I could wait untill next year, put Lady back up for sale and hope she passes a vetting- which is a big risk.

Am really upset at the moment to be honest, just looking at horses for sale gets me angry and upset, but mum just emailed me the link (I'm at school) to this horse:
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/marketplace/classified/details.php?id=147203&category=4

which is the type we would be looking to buy if we chose that option.

Oh, another option is to practically give Lady away and tell people she failed the vetting on the flexions, but thats stupid and we are NOT doing that because she is NOT lame! The vet said, "her pelvis dips lower on the one side than the other, get the backman out" which we did and he said nothing was wrong

We really wanted our other vet to come out, as this one is a temp stand in for our proper vet, but she wont come out as she said it is this other vets situation!

Sorry for blabbing..!

 

[Horsemad12]

Had a friend who had a horse fail for a similar reason. Passed the second vet.

If you really want to sell her you could consider reducing the price to make up for the "failed" vetting.

Horse in the pic looks ace, I would say a bit under priced and would question why?

 

[Darkly_Dreaming_Dex]

We have just purchased a horse who failed on flexion who also has an unusual gait but we were only interested to take the risk as he was reduced in price.

Re your girl- have you tried working her to strengthen her weakness as that can make a massive difference.

Re the horse for sale and its price-I have heard that Jumbo offspring can be quirky which coupled with their size means they are best for very experienced people only (happy to be corrected on this)

 

[hotellie]

keep lady, get a youngster to bring on and if it is possible have them both.

 

[jotesh]

Just a thought but if the people are still interested in the pony can you meet them on price?? Or how about trying a different vets practice? Anne from Moody and MacArthur (Droitwich) is excellent as is John Williams (although may be struck off now!) or there's always Kearnes and Rea (Tewkesbury).

Else try the pony clubs - a lot of people then don't bother with the vetting

Unlucky to get the same vet twice!

 

[BroadfordQueen]

We will be willing to drop the price for them, they where still interested but said they had to go home and talk about it. Mum said she might phone them and ask if they are willing to drop the price, as was too shell shocked at the time to disscuss this with them.

Anne is who we use! But she was on holiday for the original vetting, and we wanted her out for the second vetting but she said she didn't want to come out as she said it was the other vets situation (it wasn't as such a second vetting, just a second flexion test cos she was fine with everything else).

 

[Bossanova]

They say it has a huge scopey jump but it looks very flat over its fences and certainly not scopey.....

I'd carry on trying to sell her if I were you, and if you try something you like then buy it but not rush into anything

 

[BroadfordQueen]

Think we will put an ad in for her in h&h the Thursday before half term. Deffinately not going to rush into it if we look at youngsters!

Would a dressage judge at BD level pick up on gait abnormality/very slight lameness behind? As we have done a test with a BD judge and she commented on the sheet how beautiful her paces where, and then at the end of the day came out of the car to tell us how lovely and straight moving she was.

I think the biggest problem we are faced with now is insurence..we stupidly didn't insure her when we bought her (was meant to but kept forgetting!), but now we have had a vet come out to her we can't insure her for her off hind, so any treatment we have is going to be expensive!

 

[Eventerlad15]

I'd sell your girl, at a reduced price. No point in keeping her if it stops you getting a nice new one!

I looked at the Jumbo boy and liked him, agree that he looks flat though, but nice.

 

[seabiscuit]

How many 10ths lame was she after flexion? was this before or after exercise? I think you said that it was 1/10ths?
Honestly some vets will pass a horse that is 1/10ths lame after flexion, and others wont hear of passing it!

Also know of a a eventer that failed a vetting on flexion , ( very namby pampby vet) then one month later passed a full 5 stage with xrays with a top vet !

There are several types of vets out there- some vets are hysterically extreme over the top, will not pass a thing in any vetting, other vets are hysterfically the other extreme and barely look at the horse in the vetting, and then you get vets that are 'just normal'. All of these types of vets Ive seen within top vet practises.

If your horse is sound then it jolly well is sound- get rid of the namby vet that keeps vetting him!

 

[BroadfordQueen]

She is "barely 1/10ths lame", but because she could see something "not quite right" then she said she couldn't pass it! So, so annoying.

 

[seabiscuit]

What a stupid vet... can guarantee that your horse would be passed by many other 'normal' vets! Let it get vetted by someone else, dont drop the price or anything, as there is obv. nothing really wrong with it.

 

[glenruby]

1/10th lame is "inconsistent lameness in trot". To be honest, there is usually a cause. And, no, I wouldnt necessarily expect a dressage judge to spot it, you'd be surprised how many "good" horsemen cant spot a 1/10 lameness.
Plus, your pony shouldnt have been "failed", though the vet should have noted it on the PPE. Maybe without knowing the cause of the "unsoundness" he wasnt willing to say he thought the horse was fit for the purpose it was being bought for?
I just saw an event horse this week that was referred for a lameness work-up, not because the owner found him to be lame, but because he had failed 2 PPEs on flexion tests. The referring vet called him 1/10lame, though to us he would definitely have been a 2/10. He had palpable changes to his hock - though not very much and had OA changes on xrays of one hock. His OA is just starting and it wouldnt cause him to "fail" a vet, but it is something that would need to be noted and probably would cause the price to be dropped (which was our recommendation). PPEs are a minefield!!