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My first pony was a 4 year old and it was fine! Not all young horses are nutters, mine was solid as a rock! He was just born that way.
 
I once worked with a horse who after being back and schooled as a 3 year old could have easily been sold as a novice horse, he was totally bombproof, absolutely nothing phased him :)
 
I think its more a matter of whats good for the horse. There are lots of lovely genuine youngsters out there who are sold to novices who just don't have the skills to continue with the horses education. If the owners accept this and get help when needed then fine, but too many end up with people who just ruin them. The horses become badly behaved through no fault of their own, the owners get scared and stop riding them, behaviour gets worse etc, downward spiral. The blind leading the blind just doesn't work without lots of help. Young horses deserve better than that! Have seen it too many times, have one on the yard now who is turning into a monster before our eyes and owner will not have it. Its very sad for the poor horse. :(
 
Agree with hollybear. I put out a wanted ad for a first horse and was approached by people with 5 year olds that are quiet enough for novices but I didn't feel I have the experience to bring on a horse and would hate to ruin one! Plus I'm not sure if I'd be strong enough to handle a youngster when it goes through its 'teenage' years and starts really pushing the boundaries!
 
Depends entirely on temperament. My little cob has be a perfect novice's horse since the day he was broken. He did his first dressage test with a 9yr old girl. He took a very nervous 12yr old round a clear round course the 3rd time he's ever jumped a course. My completely novice mum has been hacking him out since he was broken at 4yrs old.

And unlike most quiet horses he is also very submissive and low ranking and would never try to bully a human.

Would be be suitable for a novice first time owner? Hell yes. Would I actually want him to GO to a novice first time owner? No, sorry.
 
hollybear said:
I think its more a matter of whats good for the horse. There are lots of lovely genuine youngsters out there who are sold to novices who just don't have the skills to continue with the horses education. If the owners accept this and get help when needed then fine, but too many end up with people who just ruin them. The horses become badly behaved through no fault of their own, the owners get scared and stop riding them, behaviour gets worse etc, downward spiral. The blind leading the blind just doesn't work without lots of help. Young horses deserve better than that! Have seen it too many times, have one on the yard now who is turning into a monster before our eyes and owner will not have it. Its very sad for the poor horse. :(
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Hi, Seems a nice little fellow, In the end people buy what they want, and if it doesn't work out its always the horses fault, the reason being that people highly over estimate their riding ability. An experienced person can take a look at your riding and tell you straight away what you should buy. Poor little horsey is always sold on and the rider/owner never takes the time to try and improve their own riding, too much like hard work. :confused:
 
age doesnt always matter i have just sold a 9 yrold mare who i owned for almost 6 years who i backed and has been a total novice ride since and 100 % in traffic,and bought a 13 year old who is extemely spooky who i wouldnt class as a novice ride.
 
Leaveittothediva said:
Hi, Seems a nice little fellow, In the end people buy what they want, and if it doesn't work out its always the horses fault, the reason being that people highly over estimate their riding ability. An experienced person can take a look at your riding and tell you straight away what you should buy. Poor little horsey is always sold on and the rider/owner never takes the time to try and improve their own riding, too much like hard work. :confused:
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He may be a nice little fellow but is described as a novice ride, he looks very green and rather nervy when moving despite standing quietly while the rider climbs around him. Not a case of a buyer overestimating their ability but potentially a horse being mis described, hopefully whoever buys him will have help to bring on and educate him but a real novice may struggle with something so green.
As said in several posts many youngsters are perfectly quiet and suitable for novice riders but is it always right for either the horse or rider.
 
I have a spooky mo.ster of a 10 year old. Almost went to see a 5 year old cob whod done a tiny but of everything and was being sold as very sensible. He was snapped up straight away but if he'd been as sold would have been better suited to me as a competent(ish) novice then the quirky horse I bought.
 
Some 5year olds are suitable for novices as long as they have regular lessons and help from more experienced people.

From looking at the video, I don't think this horse is one of them though!
 
Thanks was really to test my thinking . Yes it's a nice looking horse but some of the responses to aids wouldn't suit a true novice IMO. I suppose my feel was yes horses of this sort could be suitable but is it best for the horse in case of future teenage issues being misinterpreted by less experienced hands.
 
Idiotpony is owned by what I'd class as a novice child, although she's very keen to learn and improve, when I started riding him, he was very nappy and bucky as he'd learnt he could get away with it.

I school or hack him out twice a week and he's really good now for a 5 year old. I'd class him as being ok for a novice but does need someone able to come school him on and take him out to see the world a bit more.
Luckily K and her mum realised this and its working well for all of us.
 
I think he's a sweet little chap actually, obviously needs schooling but if his new owner just wants to hack and not do much hopefully with lessons then I don't see a problem. Behaviour wise he could turn bolshy, but then again he might not.
 
OrionDuca said:
The flash is just for a type control though, so it shouldn't mean he isn't suitable for a novice surely?
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Any lovely plods i've seen people have, have never been in flashes. If he's in a flash i'd imagine

- he either has teeth/mouth/bitting issues. would a novice have the experience to understand or fix these?

- he's a bit stronger than advertised

- he crosses his jaw or is fussy with his head, which i wouldn't recommend for a complete novice as they can be off-balanced or pulled forward easily if a horse is headshaking or fussy

I'm just surprised to see a novice plod in a flash really.
 
paddi22 said:
I'm just surprised to see a novice plod in a flash really.
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Some people just put them on for the sake of it and don't really know what it's for or why a horse would need it. It's difficult to find a bridle without one these days.

When I tried my cob he wore a flash, but since getting him home I have taken it off and he is no different. He doesn't need one, and the horse advertised may not need one either.

Having said that, it's a dealer, so she should know whether a horse needs one or not.

Isn't this the person who branched away from Safe Cobs?
 
I think he might need the flash as it looks as though it's fastened tight in the video and he is nose poking in trot and slight shake too so a beginner would need support with this.

He is a nice little lad though and in the right hands will be a fab boy. Let's hope he finds the right home. I don't know the dealer but notice from the vid in traffic that they are quite close to me.
 
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