Another Passport Poser!

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Maesfen

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This story concerns a friend of mine and I know the mare well so it will be interesting to see what happens. On the one hand, yes, she should have checked the passport and horse match but on the other hand, the auctioneers come round and check each passport matches each horse before they are even allowed in the ring. They are usually so professional (so I've found anyway, you might know differently!) that I find it very hard to think they have cocked up with that inspection. Each Weatherby passport has the name and breeding declared along with the sketch.
My thought is that the vet doing the original sketch had others to do at the same time and they got mixed up somehow, the owners not taking the time to check when the new passports were returned.
I know this has happened in the past because it did with a friend of mine; he had three foals to sketch that year. It wasn't until years later when someone sent one of the fillies to stud and it was refused because the passport did not match the horse involved! The breeding was correct but the markings weren't (coat colour might change but having a wide blaze and socks do not disappear!) This means there are two horses about with the wrong passports at least and my friend won't have it that he is to blame - because he should have checked them when they were first done by the vet and then when they were returned, but typical man, he is never wrong!

The question that now has to be asked in this case is will the foal actually be better bred than at first assumed - or worse and will they ever find out?

Your thoughts please.

http://www.racingpost.co.uk/news/master....story_id=975659
 
Ooohhh tricky!! Should have checked though.....
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Yes, but who?!
Doncaster passed the original passport/mare combination at inspection and at that time they have their numbers given to you to stick on their rumps. Did the attending groom get it mixed up with another chestnut mare they might have had in, another thought into the conundrum?
So rightly or wrongly, you assume you are given the correct passport when you go to the office and pay, especially when it has the mare's name on it!
 
I'm afraid the buyer should have checked the passport, I'm damn sure I would, although I have seen my vet write out a horses vaccination record entirely for the wrong horse(because we were gossiping!), the error was rectified after I had looked in it some months later.
 
Yes, I know I would and go over them with a fine tooth comb but the start of all this going wrong when Mel bought her must lay at the DBS door surely because they inspected and passed that passport for that mare in the first place! That mare had raced before the sales, her passport would have been checked each time by the authorities which makes me think there has been a mix up either at the sales or at the livery yard the horse had been in before the sales, but if it had been at the latter then the sales procedure should have found out at the start.
Whenever I've taken stock to those sales, you have a box alloted to you which corresponds with your lot number. Before long, the auctioneers come round and inspect horse and passport match each other, if chipped the scanner will be used and checked; the passport is numbered with your lot number and taken with them. They give you a number to go on rump both sides which have to be put on before you walk horse out of box again so that anyone walking by can check with the catalogue which horse it is and those numbers must not be moved until horse is off those premises; auctioneers also ask your reserve price. Passports are taken and lodged in the office only to be seen again when you either pay for a lot or you collect it because it wasn't sold; either way you are given a form which allows you to leave the premises with that horse and no other. Hence why it is easy to suppose that you have the right passport and mare!
 
How old is the horse in question? Is there a difference in how it might be bred? DNA checks with Weatherbys?
 
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She's a 98 so before chipping. http://www.dbsauctions.com/search.htm

From what I can gather, haven't seen Mel just going by that report in the Post, Weatherbys are sussing it out! She was the biggish chestnut in the field with B - not the one with dodgy feet!
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TBH I don't remember her. Link doesn't work. 98 was before chipping, but not sure about DNA? Contact Sue Bennet in Registration at Weatherbys, she's lovely and REALLY helpful. If you want you can say I said to call her..... She's probably sick of me I've rung her that often this week....
 
As I said, nothing to do with me, just interested in thoughts seeing as I know owner and mare! Before DNA they had blood typing so that will be on record, (you couldn't register anything with Weatherbys without that!) so hopefully they will be able to sort it out from that.
Sorry about link, if you use it and enter mare's name her sales data comes up, you have to click on lot number to see catalogue page.
 
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