Another reason to boycott Baileys...

[Tiddlypom]

The pro photo that I posted of Jovian cantering on his lap of honour was taken from the H&H report of HOYS 2017. LR complained that the photo made Jovian look much fatter than he really was, as it caught him at an unfortunate moment in time. The grainy side on amateur pic of him at halt, taken while he was still in the ring, showed that in reality he was even fatter than the pro pic showed.

The pics can be found on the internet.

ETA I did read through many of the comments on the Baileys FB page, and saw no death threats or anything that might have caused LR to fear for her safety.

 

[ester]

It's interesting that discussion about it seems to have been quickly shut down on the FEI time to act page. Apparently it has been discussed at length but there are no other posts viewable to me about it other than the one posted yesterday and comments turned off before I saw it!

 

[dogatemysalad]

Lynn Russell has nine well known companies that sponsor her, does anyone know what their response is ? Bailey's has done the right thing, but it seems that the BSHA and these other sponsors are very quiet.

 

[DabDab]

Unimpressed with the selection of posts on this thread that the forum bods have decided are "potentially defamatory". The vast majority are comments about Jovian, all of which from my memory (which is excellent for things like that) were only clearly opinion or statements of fact from information that was already in the public domain.

Will wait to see if HHO also delete recent posts made on the subject of Bailey's not cancelling their sponsorship after the Jovian incident....

 

[Goldenstar]

Sadly one of them is Wahl so now I will have to ditch my favourite shampoo .

 

[Goldenstar]

It's interesting that discussion about it seems to have been quickly shut down on the FEI time to act page. Apparently it has been discussed at length but there are no other posts viewable to me about it other than the one posted yesterday and comments turned off before I saw it!

I think it’s just a we said as much as we need to thing that’s caused turned it off .
I like that group it’s has some interesting discussions not all just screaming evil top riders that you get on some .
I read the whole thing .
Very focused on the training aid rather than the condition discussion we had but you would expect that on that group .

 

[Tiddlypom]

We can all have a wry smile at this post put up today on the Baileys FB page, in which they advertise a talk that they will be giving each day at YHL on how to manage good doers/overweight horses.

 

[Goldenstar]

Oh the irony .

 

[Dynamo]

This is the sort of thing that gives all of showing a bad reputation. Fortunately, there are many, many professionals and amateurs who do things correctly and kindly, but that doesn't attract attention, so when top professionals like this do things that are completely and utterly unjustifiable in any context of horsemanship, it has a disproportionate effect on the reputation of the sport as a whole. She ought to be thoroughly ashamed, not only for the impact on this horse and all her horses, but also for the impact on showing as a whole.

 

[Velcrobum]

Just looked at her Facebook page she now has a 1.6 rating and dozens of guest posts against that clip which has also been reproduced many times. She has not acknowledged losing Baileys as a sponsor as yet. I wonder how will H&H report this on paper this week??

 

[holeymoley]

There’s a petition going round now...

 

[Tiddlypom]

What’s the petition about?

 

[Goldenstar]

What’s the petition about?

yes about what .

 

[holeymoley]

To boycott baileys feeds after their reaction to drop her...

 

[Goldenstar]

To boycott baileys feeds after their reaction to drop her...

😨 it takes all sorts

 

[Tiddlypom]

There will be many fewer LR supporters than denigrators, but I imagine that her supporters are big cheeses in the showing world...

 

[FlyingCircus]

Is it just me who can't find Baileys statement on their FB page anymore?

 

[Tiddlypom]

Is it just me who can't find Baileys statement on their FB page anymore?

I can’t see it either.

 

[FlyingCircus]

I can’t see it either.

Wonder if there have been some legal repercussions.

 

[cobgoblin]

The statement was still there about half an hour ago.. But I can't find it now.

 

[ycbm]

If she thinks she's unpopular now, its absolutely nothing to how unpopular she's going to be if she tries to sue Bailey's! It would be almost enough to make me change to their feed!!

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[Goldenstar]

If she thinks she's unpopular now, its absolutely nothing to how unpopular she's going to be if she tries to sue Bailey's! It would be almost enough to make me change to their feed!!

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they do make a low calorie balancer
bit like my fridge full of food to keep me in show condition and a tub of 0% fat yogurt .

 

[Red-1]

I do think their decision to drop the sponsorship is correct, if nothing else from a business perspective. But, I think the wording of the announcement was rather and a bit judge and jury.

I don't think there can be legal repercussions from saying that you will no longer sponsor someone but the wording " Bailey's Horse Feeds - Further to the release of a video on social media by Baileys-sponsored showing producer, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX, we would like to assure our customers, and the wider horse world, that we in no way condone abusive training or handling of any horse or pony. Baileys Horse Feeds’ sponsorship of XXXXXX has been withdrawn, with immediate effect." is a company declaring that she was abusive, or if it is not they stop barely short of it.

I dare say it would take a court to decide if some was abusive or not. For a company to declare this was wrong, IMO. It is subjective. They are not the people who decide, legally, if someone's actions are abusive.

If they had merely said "We have decided to no longer sponsor XXXXX because they no longer fit with our brand image" then that would have been all above board IMO.

 

[Red-1]

The quote is still live on the many reviews by the way.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Baileys will be bitterly regretting not ending their sponsorship of LR after the Jovian debacle. They could have got out then after giving her a suitable period of notice and the usual false platitudes of how grateful they were, etc. etc.

 

[Velcrobum]

The video has been posted on You tube so I do not think it is going to go away.

The showing fraternity may or may not back her but it will be interesting so see if any other sponsors quietly withdraw.

 

[honetpot]

I would imagine if its a business contract with Baileys, there will be something about bringing the company in to disrepute by association, so if she has done something wrong or not there will be a get out clause, which they can plug the plug on her immediately.

 

[Red-1]

I would imagine if its a business contract with Baileys, there will be something about bringing the company in to disrepute by association, so if she has done something wrong or not there will be a get out clause, which they can plug the plug on her immediately.

I agree. But maybe not use the word 'abuse' unless that is proven.

 

[ycbm]

I agree. But maybe not use the word 'abuse' unless that is proven.

In business terms it was very unwise wording! I think they'll be paying compensation and having to make a public apology.

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[honetpot]

If its a business dicision, I do not think they will apologise. They didn't say she abused horses. Most of the feed sales probabely come from non showing homes, I think they would lose more sales if they apologised to her, at the moment they are ahead. If it goes to court more bad publicity for her and for them.
They could do an NDA and settlement, we do not know the terms of the contract