Anti bull breed/type program on tomorrow night on BBC 1

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I received this on my facebook page today pasted below:

"An anti-bull breed program is being aired on Tuesday 24th January 2012 on BBC 1 at 10:30pm
The Dogs' Trust were going to feature on there being positive about Staffies, but they have been cut out the programme which will mean very bad news for our Staffie friends as they seem to only want negative attitudes towards them. Please share this news everywhere!
I am not too sure if strength in numbers will help But?"

Anyone who has a Bull breed or type, as I have, please watch it and if it is as biased as the poster on my facebook says it's going to be against bully breeds please voice your concerns to the BBC, the bull breeds have a bad enough press as it is and just as people are coming round to the idea that it's deed not breed the BBC seems to be out to ruin that idea.
I hope the info isn't correct and the BBC are going to be fair.
 
Just looked this up in my tv guide and the Programme is titled" Death Row Dogs"

The info is around5,000 people a year are hospitalised as a result of attacks by dogs such as American pit bulls. This shocking documentary meets the police teams trying to stem the rise of the dangerous dog as weapon and status symbol, and talks to the family of a little boy who died when his uncles dog turned on him

Dosnt sound balanced to me.
 
And unfortunately the sad case of the poor little girl attacked this weekend will only add fuel to the fire. I have heard news reports refer to that dog as a bull terrier, staffy and pit bull .
 
MurphysMinder said:
And unfortunately the sad case of the poor little girl attacked this weekend will only add fuel to the fire. I have heard news reports refer to that dog as a bull terrier, staffy and pit bull .
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Yes, I am sorry the girl was attacked but the first report I heard was it was a pit bull, then next time round it turned into a bull breed which covers LOADS of dogs to be honest and tars them all with the same brush.I have a lab x staffy, daft as a brush and a big cowardly custard yet by listening to the people who seem to be out for their blood he'd be classed the same as that poor Lennox who's on death row in Belfast.
 
This will be more unbalanced than a feather V's a JCB. The dog in the news recently has been called allsorts, it is black with white patches- I reckon its a collie.
 
The BBC should balance this with a documentary on the rise in dog attacks mirroring the rise in degenerative sectors of society.

The more lowlife owners you have and scum breeders you have wanting a fast buck to supplement their benefits the more the rise in dog attacks and unfortunately bull x's are their dog of choice.
 
I thought so too, that woman on BBC Breakfast, admitted the dog was a banned breed and that they 'used an air freshner spray' in the past to distract the dog before it killed her son. Yet there she was saying all dogs should be muzzles when near children under 12.
 
BBH said:
The BBC should balance this with a documentary on the rise in dog attacks mirroring the rise in degenerative sectors of society.

The more lowlife owners you have and scum breeders you have wanting a fast buck to supplement their benefits the more the rise in dog attacks and unfortunately bull x's are their dog of choice.
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Very well said and totally agree with you.
 
MurphysMinder said:
And unfortunately the sad case of the poor little girl attacked this weekend will only add fuel to the fire. I have heard news reports refer to that dog as a bull terrier, staffy and pit bull .
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I heard that too - on Daybreak they referred to it as a pitbull and I thought that was seriously unlikely and was much more likely to be a cross bull breed or staffie (as how it was originally described). They need to get their facts right. For all we know it could just be a x breed of no particular breeding at all but with staffie type colouring!!!

Mind you they then went on to talk about the bacteria infection affecting the babies in the hospital in Belfast and referred to it as a virus!

I will watch if I remember - I can just see now though there will be a load of hysteria and people will again decide the breed is the problem as opposed to the owners. I really do think we need some sort of licensing in the country to be able to keep a dog
 
Dobiegirl said:
My main fear with the current hysteria is that all dogs will have to be muzzled in a public place, it would be an easy solution for the government to take.
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That would be truly awful. Surely some perspective has to be taken vis a vie the small number of incidents compared to the number and frequency of dog walks. A lot of these attacks have happened in peoples homes so shall we then muzzle at home aswell :mad:
 
Its such a shame that its always kids that get injured, as it makes for a much better one-sided story (and also the fact that kids get injured obviously!) Otherwise it would just be a case of a dog attacking its owner, who made the dog into what it was - which make it into much less of a sensationalist story. :(

If dogs only attacked their idiotic owners, well that would be evolution in action wouldn't it?
 
What is even more unbelievable is the way now of identifying a pit bull type.In the original days of the DDA I was used by our County Council to identify any problem dogs they picked up..was it or was`nt it a pit? At that time most were bull terrier cross staffie or boxer.Nowadays it is done on measurements of the skull,density of muscle.I was actually informed by a dog warden that a cross between a bull mastiff and a sharpei could produce a pit bull type under the new conditions..she then went on to say "and it would have the same instincts"..at which point I fell about laughing!After all,it would be easy to produce,say,six foxhounds whose measurements were very at odds..but foxhounds they still would be!
The law is indeed a complete ass.
 
Hmmmm see I wouldnt actually have a problem with all dogs having to be muzzled in a public place (My own home is a different matter!!!), at least then I would know a) My dog was never in danger of harming another, or a kid, or small furry and b) another dog could not harm him (would have been ideal on the blumming great black GSD that snuck up on us tonight in the pitch black wearing no lights, making both Dex and I jump- and Dex growl). As in my opinion wearing a muzzle, if properly trained to do so, is not great hardship.

The problem would be that the responsible owners would abide by the law, and muzzle their dogs, but the numpties would not- so you then have an even bigger issue- the responsible owners dogs getting attacked and being unable to defend themselves. It is also unenforceable unfortunately.
 
Lexie, do agree responsible dog owners would abide by it and the idiots wouldn't and attacks would still happen, lots happen in the home so wouldn't stop those either. I personally would hate it. You can't really play ball with a muzzle and I would end up with a very unhappy terrier.
 
This was one of the most saddest programmes I have ever seen. Those poor dogs PTS not only because of their breed but because of their owners lack of knowledge, understanding and in some examples shown, their attitude. Why oh why can't there be some way of "testing" people for their suitability to own a dog and some way of stopping irresponsible breeding. It's not the people who suffer but the innocent dog.(and all dogs are born innocent)
 
Lots of crying in our house tonight.....

That poor dog at the end still managed to wag his tail before the final injection, it was just heartbreaking! and to think if he hadn't been owned by that disgusting woman who had been BANNED from keeping animals he may have escaped being put down. The conditions that all of those dogs were found in was inexcusable and all owned by the scum of society. I despair....
 
I was so upset watching that poor dog being put to sleep, it was a lovely dog, had never done anyone any harm but unfortunately owned by an idiot.


The dog that was returned to its owner who didnt seem overly fussed about having him back was another I felt very sorry for and the conditions those dogs were forced to live in was appalling.

The mother who lost her son and whose life would never be the same again and the grandmother who was witness to the terrible attack was very heart wrenching.
 
It's on in scotland just now. It is a shame it is idiots that are prone to owning these types of dogs. At the end of the day, am pit bulls are a banned breed and if the law had been adhered to when the law was passed, these poor dogs wouldn't treated this way and be the ones suffering. But the hard men had to keep breeding and owning and the ones to suffer are the poor animals. some of these dogs are living in horrible conditions.
 
Found it hard watching. My grandad bred pit bulls, and there are photos of me as a baby surrounded by puppies and dogs. He always said that breeding was part of it - breed bad to bad, and you will get bad. I think he meant breed 2 aggressive, unpredictable dogs with crap temperament and you will get another! He was adamant breed well, bring up well and 99% of the time you will be fine
I have never been wary of dogs until I had a bad experience with a Japanese Akita and I won't go near then now, I know that is a breed prejudice but they utterly terrify me
The only dog I have been bitten (and badly) by was a working sheepdog (collie)
 
I found it very difficult to watch the dog being pts, reminded me of when I lost my dog through cancer,watching her go. That STUPID cow and that is polite, woman who had the dog should have been put down as well. NO regard for the law, she was banned for life from keeping animals for cruelty, yet still had this dog and kept it in awful conditions, only took it out at night so she knew damn well she shouldn't have it and saying that it was her son's dog doesn't cut it with me, it was obviously her dog as she said MY dog when her guard was down as well as I only take him out at night. If it was her son's dog who also sounded sub human, then he should be tending to it's needs.
To be honest, being put to sleep was far kinder for this dog than being subjected to scum like that. Poor dog, yet again, it's not the dog but the owners and why did the police say it's not in the public's interested to prosecute you?
HELLO, she was flouting the law, what is wrong with this country?
 
i watched this programme and it had me in tears my son (29)has a lovely staffie who is a complete wimp and my mum had a staffie x lab who was wonderful and lived till 22 years it was heartbreaking to see some of them in the kennels so scared most of those dogs were owned by complete inbreds who shouldnt be allowed to own a hamster let alone a dog
 
cassie summers said:
i watched this programme and it had me in tears my son (29)has a lovely staffie who is a complete wimp and my mum had a staffie x lab who was wonderful and lived till 22 years it was heartbreaking to see some of them in the kennels so scared most of those dogs were owned by complete inbreds who shouldnt be allowed to own a hamster let alone a dog
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I have this big wuss, soft as anything, see below, we call him Barney, the braindead as he is so soppy, lab x staffy but if judged by some would be in the same bracket as the dog put down last night

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I dipped in and out because I found it so horribly distressing. I, unfortunately was tuned in when that poor dog was put down. Still wagging his tail. The good point they made was that the law should be changed so a Pitbull type, correctly handled could be rehomed. However, before anyone starts thinking I am seeing this through the proverbial rose coloured spectacles I am well aware that even with dogs that are correctly managed, good homes, very often do not find their way back. I really really wish they had focused on the owners behaviour instead of still perpuating the idiotic myth that the dogs are 100% to blame with no input from the owner. As for the woman who lost her grandchild - she was only too keen to pass the entire blame onto the dog. No responsibility at all for her own actions. Was ( by her own admission ) ignoring the dog over the grandchild, dog showed it was anxious! And the mother saying they had a demon in the house Well yes you did. And you brought it into being

And yes, lots of tears last night. Those poor dogs didnt stand a chance. I have found more and more that people ignore their children rushing upto my dogs and the first thing they do is to want to put their face next to the dog. Mine are fine and well used to children and noise. With the more switched on parents we do use my bitch to offer quick lesson why they don't put their face next to a dog... She will alway lick the face going for the mouth ..
 
cremedemonthe said:
I have this big wuss, soft as anything, see below, we call him Barney, the braindead as he is so soppy, lab x staffy but if judged by some would be in the same bracket as the dog put down last night

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What is he registered at the vets as? I would assume he is chipped and neutered as he belongs to you but perhaps it would be a good idea to look at how you can safeguard yourself? I am not for one moment suggesting your lovely dog is anything other than soft and well behaved but you can rest assured that there will be people who watched last nights " show" and will be actively looking out for "pit bull types"
 
A very sad programme, I had to shut my eyes in the first few seconds at the dog fighting scenes. I thought the dog handler who had to remove the dogs spoke very well, he obviously cared about the dogs and felt the law was wrong in how it dealt with them. So sad that poor young dog was pts, but at least he went being fussed and with his tail wagging.
 
I firmly believe any dog in the wrong hands is an incident waiting to happen.

My dad was out walking his own mongrel dog on a lead last year in his local park, and from nowhere a staffy type dog ran into the park, attacked his dog and caused significant injuries, it then knocked my elderly father over and attacked him, he had bites and broken wrist requiring surgery. The owner somewhat belatedly caught his dog and just walked away - no apology, no offer to help my dad who was bleeding heavily. My dad's dog required alot of vet treatments and was in the vets for two days. My dad spent five days in hospital. The police said there was nothing they could do as they did not know where the dog lived !!!!

I personally know two staffy crosses who are gorgeous, very kind natured dogs and are a pleasure to be around. However my friend's chocolate lab is a completely different story and I certainly wouldn't leave him alone in a room with my children.
 
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