Any bit from the snaffle family

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Venue near us does “Stressless dressage” which I think I might take the old girl to when she’s fitter. Rules state: Any bit from the snaffle family can be used. NO double bridles. Bitless bridles, running martingales, boots/bandages are also allowed to be worn.

Would this be acceptable:
www.redpostequestrian.co.uk

Lorina Continental 2-Ring Single Jointed Gag Bit

A strong metal bit with a jointed mouthpiece and continental cheekpieces, the Lorina Continental 2-Ring Single Jointed Gag Bit exerts poll pressure and offers a limited gag action to encourage a positive response.
www.redpostequestrian.co.uk

I’ve never found a dressage legal bit she likes as much as a single joint two ring gag and as she’s almost retired I think this would be a nice thing to do an intro with her, on her terms.

Just need to work out if this bit is okay, I’ve got a hanging cheek with the same mouth piece and she’s just a bit fussier in it.
 
I'm slightly surprised that any 'snaffle' bit can be used, there are some horror stories in the family!!! For example a magennis...
 
I was taught that three and two ring gags/bubble bits are technically snaffles as they have a lowering effect whilst a true gag like a Cheltenham gag has a lifting effect. Although, that might be old school or an inaccurate thought nowadays though?

I'd definitely check with the prganiser.
 
So, and I may be wrong but I would say a ring on top of the mouth piece ring can be a snaffle, I’d go ring below with leverage is gag.
3 ring gag, bubble gag
Maybe not a true gag (ie Cheltenham) as also known as a continental snaffle so this is where the confusion lies
 
That’s random rules, you’d have to ask the organisers as its their rules so their say. But that is not a snaffle, it’s even in its name. If the actions technically a true gag or another form of leverage is over complicating it!
 
Not a snaffle, but if you're using the first ring I would say a snaffle with the same mouthpiece should be similar enough in action to make little difference to the horse anyway? Have you tried a loose ring single jointed snaffle, or is she fussier in that as well?
 
Ask the organisers. If they’re running under BD rules, which a lot of unaffiliated competitions do, then the permitted snaffles can be found in the BD rules.
Whether the bit in your picture is classed as a snaffle or not, it wouldn’t be allowed under BD rules.
 
Not under BD rules is the point of the class, bending rules on tack and dress for those of us who can’t school their horses in the right bit.

I’ve tried various dressage legal options but the only other bit that she vaguely likes is a Wilkie. Also not dressage legal. It’s the rein acting on the bottom point that seems to work for her.

She’s 22 and was almost retired so I don’t want to change what she likes but would like to take her out for a W/T test just because I’m so bored!
 
If you want to use that bit but it's not permitted under the particular rules of the venue they might let you in HC
What about a hanging cheek snaffle?
 
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No, that’s not a snaffle. Could have a go HC perhaps?

Many horses prefer the second ring on a gag because it changes the pressure on the mouth - any movement by the rider’s hands is first taken up in the slack as the ring turns, then pressure is spread between poll and mouth.

Maybe one of the modern bits designed to provide tongue relief would be acceptable to her?
 
Caski said:
I'm slightly surprised that any 'snaffle' bit can be used, there are some horror stories in the family!!! For example a magennis...
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Out of interest how does this work? (would never use it) but it looks like the rollers are contained within metal so it would just be a normal mouthpiece but with rollers in it??
 
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