Any recommendations for joint supplements that aren't glucosamine based?

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I've read that glucosamine based supplements can trigger laminitis/cushings, I'm currently using Global Herbs movefree but am dubious about feeding things that I don't know the ingredients of...

I did use a glucosamine based supplement for years, but stopped after a suspected lami attack, and am looking into alternatives.

I've also seen people mention tumeric, how much do you feed?

Thanks
 
Tried to post a reply earlier but HHO wasn't having any of it:confused:

Look at the Metabolic Horse website and their products. They have one called SafeJoint which is specifically for IR/Cushings horses.

Also mybesthorse - MovEase. They are in America however but will ship to the UK
 
Where did you read that laminitics can't have glucosamine OP? My pony has had general footiness/laminitis every year for the last three years and more serious cases previously and yet the vet was happy to prescribe her joint supplements containing glucosamine. Currently she is on riaflex, although she was on pure glucosamine for a while. We are now under the care of a different vet having moved areas so I would be really interested to know your sources, especially as I am struggling to get my pony rock crunching barefoot and she has tested negative for cushings and IR.
Thanks.
 
My horse has boswellia and micronised linseed. She has navicular, bilateral spavin, psld and arthritis in the fetlock. She is sound. Dont' know whether what I'm feeding makes any difference, but I don't want to stop in case she gets worse! However I do also give her a glucosamine and MSM supplement as well.
 
unbalanced said:
Where did you read that laminitics can't have glucosamine OP? My pony has had general footiness/laminitis every year for the last three years and more serious cases previously and yet the vet was happy to prescribe her joint supplements containing glucosamine. Currently she is on riaflex, although she was on pure glucosamine for a while. We are now under the care of a different vet having moved areas so I would be really interested to know your sources, especially as I am struggling to get my pony rock crunching barefoot and she has tested negative for cushings and IR.
Thanks.
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There is a good summary in this article Unbalanced :) http://myhorse.com/blogs/horse-care...-horse-battles-laminitis-is-glucosamine-safe/
 
Turmeric. Someone told me 30g daily for a 15hh.

Rosehip is good for joints, as is apple cider vinegar. You could also ask for hylauronic acid injections, bit like cartrophen for dogs:)
 
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unbalanced said:
Where did you read that laminitics can't have glucosamine OP? My pony has had general footiness/laminitis every year for the last three years and more serious cases previously and yet the vet was happy to prescribe her joint supplements containing glucosamine. Currently she is on riaflex, although she was on pure glucosamine for a while. We are now under the care of a different vet having moved areas so I would be really interested to know your sources, especially as I am struggling to get my pony rock crunching barefoot and she has tested negative for cushings and IR.
Thanks.
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After a bad reaction in a IDx to glucosamine, I have decided only to feed horses stuff which they could find for themselves i.e. NOT something which comes form shellfish, no matter how effective it's supposed to be.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
After a bad reaction in a IDx to glucosamine, I have decided only to feed horses stuff which they could find for themselves i.e. NOT something which comes form shellfish, no matter how effective it's supposed to be.
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I'm glad you mentioned that as I thought it was fish based but wasn't certain.I knew chondroitin (sp) was fish cartlidge or something like that,but never realised until researching recently the possibility that glucosamine was a fish product as well,so thanks for confirming.

I have a severe fish allergy (contact as well as ingestion before anyone thinks I eat the horses supplements lol) so important to know what am feeding.

I really wish they wouldn't make supplements that contain other species for herbivores,doesn't seem right somehow.

Interesting to read the replies as I too am looking for something for my getting on a bit cob,but that doesn't contain gluscosamine obviously.
I have heard good things about the bosweilla if that helps OP.

The turmeric also I have heard seems to help some horses but I was put off by the fact some people said it made the horses muzzle permanently yellow,and that the smell got over powering after a while of feeding.Being hyper sensitive to smell this bothered me,and was worried horse might not eat it??
Not sure if that the case for all though or just few I read about.
 
I've been feeding turmeric for over a year. No staining and no powerful smell. I also use fenugreek seeds for taste and they rather enjoy them both. The Tank went mad for Verm X when I tried that - it has cayenne pepper in it :o
 
Ooh yes loads!

Glucosamine is IMO overrated. HLA is perhaps better. Capsaicin gel is really good...

ACV is really good and I use it myself with tremendous effects. I can now climb stairs without creaking... It takes about 6 weeks to have any effect so persevere. I buy in big tubs and fit a pump to the lid. 2 squirts in each feed. For myself, I take it with ginger beer.

Turmeric is also good and I also use that in my cooking a lot. In rice, curries, bolognese, veg dishes...

Rose hips are supposedly good too. In addition to the ACV I add a range of herbs to feed too.

I also use linseed, the micronised kind for horses. I eat the whole ones myself sprinkled on toast and jam or cereal.
 
Excellent - thanks everyone, will def get some tumeric for starters, and some acv :-)

I'm already feeding rosehips - so hopefully they're helping anyway..

Touchstone - thanks for the link, that's really useful :-)
 
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