Anyone else had symptoms like this?

[JBM]

Vet has been called and I’m waiting just wondering if anyone knows what it is or experienced this before
Barry during feeding this morning was laying down farting and refused to get up yard owner got him up eventually but took considerable effort
Went into the arena did his usual roll and then stood at the gate to come in normally
Struggling to pee attempted 3 times and couldn’t
Eventually started to eat a very small amount of haylage
And he pooped a huge amount over night and pooped again this morning
walked fine and rolled fine but once back in stable tried to lie down again got to his knees then got back up
Thinking it can’t be colic though as he’s farting and pooping?

 

[nagblagger]

Has he peed at all..? Colic is a general term could be renal colic..?

 

[JBM]

Has he peed at all..?

Not that Ive seen but I’ll keep an eye on that
Stable had wet in it from last night but have not seen him pee

 

[meleeka]

Hopefully just a digestive upset and the vet will sort it. My old gelding used to get wind occasionally and would lay flat out and grown, until he farted a few times, then would get up and carry on as if nothing had happened! The first time was very worrying.

The trying to pee would worry me slightly, but that could also be related, or not. There’s only one way to find out, so good luck with the vet.

 

[nutjob]

Thinking it can’t be colic though as he’s farting and pooping?

It can be colic with these symptoms as it has many causes. One of mine has a sensitive stomach and excessive farting is the first indicator that something is wrong.

Also with colic they sometimes stretch out as though they want a pee as shifting position can help relieve the pain.

You have done the right thing calling the vet as either inability to urinate or colic are both emergencies. Hope someone gets to you soon, it's very stressful when you don't know what's wrong or how to help.

 

[TheMule]

Colic- standing as if to pee is classic gut pain. They can pass droppings perfectly normally whilst having severe colic

 

[JBM]

What would you guys do in the meantime waiting for the vet? I have covid so I wasn’t really supposed to be going anywhere near the stables but obviously barry comes first

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

It sounds like colic to me. I would hope the vet can get to you within an hour of your phone call. It is a veterinary emergency.

Eta, I would put a mask on and walk him about if that is possible.

 

[nutjob]

I used to put mine in the school while waiting as I thought he was safer there than in the stable if he rolled. Remove food but allow water. Hopefully if the vet knows it's an emergency they will be there soon. Whilst most colics are resolved with medication, think through what you are prepared to do if for example the horse needs surgery. If part of your plan includes in house vet treatment prepare everything you need to travel the horse eg hitch up trailer if necessary, get out passport, travel boots, rug etc. I was advised to walk mine gently for 10 mins in every hour.

 

[Dexter]

If it is colic then you need to have him scoped. That was mentioned previously to you I think? Ulcers can cause colic exactly like this, including the stretching out like they need to pee.

 

[JBM]

Vet seems to think it’s not an issue as he’s pooping and farting so doesn’t want to come out til later as he has other calls ?

 

[[153312]]

please push to be seen - or ring another practice saying your horse is exhibiting colic symptoms - it is an emergency. So sorry they're treating you/Barry like this, it's really not what you need when you have a sick horse!

 

[nagblagger]

Noooo I would change vets..

 

[JBM]

please push to be seen - or ring another practice saying your horse is exhibiting colic symptoms - it is an emergency. So sorry they're treating you/Barry like this, it's really not what you need when you have a sick horse!

I have tried to ring other vets around me before and usually as they’re so far away they refuse to come out ? next closest is about 50 minutes out I’ve tried to push them on the matter and they just said they would call me back no word since

 

[nutjob]

I don't see how the vet can know how serious a colic situation is without doing a full examination of the horse.

OP, keep a close eye on your horse, a gassy colic can lead to distended intestines which can give a bad outcome. If the horse is getting worse phone the vet practice again and stress that it is an emergency.

 

[JBM]

I don't see how the vet can know how serious a colic situation is without doing a full examination of the horse.

OP, keep a close eye on your horse, a gassy colic can lead to distended intestines which can give a bad outcome. If the horse is getting worse phone the vet practice again and stress that it is an emergency.

Will do thank you ??

 

[Gloi]

I do hope you manage to get the vet to come out soon.
A thing I would check if he seems to be struggling to pee is that he hasn't got a large bean causing a problem.

 

[JBM]

I do hope you manage to get the vet to come out soon.
A thing I would check if he seems to be struggling to pee is that he hasn't got a large bean causing a problem.

I hope he does and that’s the problem to be honest ?

 

[Carrottom]

If his droppings change to cowpats suspect peritonitis.

 

[nagblagger]

How is he, has he peed yet? Could you feel his pulse and see what that is doing? Look at his gums what colour are they, and if you press the gum how long does it take for the colour to return.
Any news of eta of vet?

 

[misst]

He is presenting exactly like one of mine used to. Colic every time. Lying down getting up standing stretched out then just standing looking a bit "down". He would get this in the autumn and the spring and it was usually resolved with simple painkillers. He would fart a lot too. When this is finished you should change vets I am shocked that a vet has said this is not colic without an urgent visit.

 

[[153312]]

How are you both getting on OP? Everything crossed here for both yours & Barrys sakes

 

[AmyMay]

Hopefully he’s pee’d by now ?

 

[JBM]

He has peed and we are walking him regularly
He seems to have perked up a bit
I have called every vet in the vicinity and no one seems bothered on their bum to come out so still waiting but doing all I can for his comfort
Called vets even more than an hour off and they “can’t come out anytime soon” and our local vet has been on an emergency for hours ??
He THANKFULLY doesn’t seem to be having a bad colic and is not in too much of a bad spell just down and sensitive/sore but this is hell and I feel so bad for him
He won’t even play with his head collar ?

 

[TheMule]

He has peed and we are walking him regularly
He seems to have perked up a bit
I have called every vet in the vicinity and no one seems bothered on their bum to come out so still waiting but doing all I can for his comfort
Called vets even more than an hour off and they “can’t come out anytime soon” and our local vet has been on an emergency for hours ??
He THANKFULLY doesn’t seem to be having a bad colic and is not in too much of a bad spell just down and sensitive/sore but this is hell and I feel so bad for him
He won’t even play with his head collar ?

Most colics do just self-resolve
If you can give him 2 bute and some buscopan (human stuff is fine, give him a pack of 12 tablets) then if it's a spasmodic colic that should settle it. But you should monitor him and insist on a vet visit if it doesn’t resolve/ the symptoms get worse

 

[nagblagger]

OMG, that is awful, when i call for emergency visit they are normally with me within the hour. Maybe i'm just lucky.

Good news he's perked up and peed but still sounds 'not right'. Does he want to eat and drink?

 

[Rowreach]

Trying to get a vet out, let alone a horse one, in much of rural Ireland is a real problem. It's not just as easy as calling a different practice because there often isn't one. And they will always prioritise a farm animal emergency over a horse one.

That said, I hope he's better OP and I'd be having a vet check anyway and maybe a little chat with the senior partner to ask how seriously they rate a colic emergency.

 

[Barton Bounty]

Most colics do just self-resolve
If you can give him 2 bute and some buscopan (human stuff is fine, give him a pack of 12 tablets) then if it's a spasmodic colic that should settle it. But you should monitor him and insist on a vet visit if it doesn’t resolve/ the symptoms get worse

I already said this to katie by text earlier, i think she is away to get some at a supermarket just now. ? I do think it is a poor show from the vet though ?

 

[JBM]

Okie update
Vet has been here
His heartbeat is incredibly slow way too slow
He’s got a steroid an antibiotic and a vitamin boost to cover all bases and under monitoring all supplements to be stopped for now

 

[Squeak]

Very relieved for you that the vet has been. Did the vet say why they thought he has a slow heartbeat?