cornwallexracers
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Yep, my lad will find the extra gear if anything comes close, his speed is phenomenal, suppose thats why he was a succesful racehorse!
Anyone Experienced this? Guessing VicJP may have!
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Parkranger
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I guess what you mean is when they 'let themselves down'. Horses dont automatically do this, as youngsters you have to teach them. All are different, on some you acheive it by having just your head in front, some head behind(when upsides).
Horses that cant do this yet (some have a few races before they learn) are classed as green. Horses that dont want to are classed as 'ungenuine'. Some horses only do it on certain types of ground.
I have no idea whether it is a TB thing, as I havent ridden much else since I was about 12yo. Well apart from a Cleveland Bay(
) that couldnt be assed to canter, and the 14hh broncathon pony down the road
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I knew you'd have the answer
so how do you teach them to do it? think Ty has been taught in the past and every now and again it comes back but funnily enough only on certain ground......
I guess what you mean is when they 'let themselves down'. Horses dont automatically do this, as youngsters you have to teach them. All are different, on some you acheive it by having just your head in front, some head behind(when upsides).
Horses that cant do this yet (some have a few races before they learn) are classed as green. Horses that dont want to are classed as 'ungenuine'. Some horses only do it on certain types of ground.
I have no idea whether it is a TB thing, as I havent ridden much else since I was about 12yo. Well apart from a Cleveland Bay(
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I knew you'd have the answer
so how do you teach them to do it? think Ty has been taught in the past and every now and again it comes back but funnily enough only on certain ground......
vicijp
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You teach them to do it by putting them upsides another horse. Some horses will grab hold of the bit with just their head in front, some a head behind. Teaching them to 'fight' the other horse is probably a good way of describing it.
Its half taught, half instinct. Those with more of a fighting instinct are more natural at it and do it almost straight away. Some can take years and never still quite manage it. Some know how to do it, but simply dont want to put the effort in too often, if ever.
Its half taught, half instinct. Those with more of a fighting instinct are more natural at it and do it almost straight away. Some can take years and never still quite manage it. Some know how to do it, but simply dont want to put the effort in too often, if ever.
SouthWestWhippet
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I seem to remember from reading the Walter Farley Black Stallion books (most of my so called racing knowledge stems from these books lol
) that race horses have two speeds about gallop called Pace and Run?????? dunno, maybe that was just a fictional thing though.
I had a TBx - he was related to Mill Reef and he would do that drop and go thing. It was bloody quick and the power would chuck you right in the air... after the first time I learnt to get my stirrups up first.
I had a TBx - he was related to Mill Reef and he would do that drop and go thing. It was bloody quick and the power would chuck you right in the air... after the first time I learnt to get my stirrups up first.
Parkranger
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You teach them to do it by putting them upsides another horse. Some horses will grab hold of the bit with just their head in front, some a head behind. Teaching them to 'fight' the other horse is probably a good way of describing it.
Its half taught, half instinct. Those with more of a fighting instinct are more natural at it and do it almost straight away. Some can take years and never still quite manage it. Some know how to do it, but simply dont want to put the effort in too often, if ever.
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So by shouting 'gooooo onnnnnnnnn Ty' at the top of my lungs I'm actually encouraging him?
haa haa. God, I should have been a jockey but think I'm too fat now! hee hee
You teach them to do it by putting them upsides another horse. Some horses will grab hold of the bit with just their head in front, some a head behind. Teaching them to 'fight' the other horse is probably a good way of describing it.
Its half taught, half instinct. Those with more of a fighting instinct are more natural at it and do it almost straight away. Some can take years and never still quite manage it. Some know how to do it, but simply dont want to put the effort in too often, if ever.
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So by shouting 'gooooo onnnnnnnnn Ty' at the top of my lungs I'm actually encouraging him?
harrihjc
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I don't think Flash knows how to gallop with a rider on, everything he does is in a controlled and collected way, no matter how much you encourage him! He did speed up a bit when I cantered him out along side my sisters pony, but not a gallop. When he plays in the field tho he has a phenomenal turn of speed. I don't think we have anywhere suitable to give it a try round here, the ground is just too uneven.
MagicMelon
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Yeah, I think its when the horses really WANT to go, rather than just being ASKED to go. This is the gear they use when they are actually trying!
Im trying to tune into it for eventing on one of mine, he bolted with me last year (not intentionally) and jeezus he moved. Obviously this is different as he was panicked but I still know he has like 3 higher gears than his usual gallop! Another of mine who is young and still hasnt really learnt to gallop, I took him in a next door field and attempted it and all of a sudden he surged forwars and holy hell did he go! Scared the crap out of me at the time as I really felt out of control simply because I wasnt used to that on him!
Im trying to tune into it for eventing on one of mine, he bolted with me last year (not intentionally) and jeezus he moved. Obviously this is different as he was panicked but I still know he has like 3 higher gears than his usual gallop! Another of mine who is young and still hasnt really learnt to gallop, I took him in a next door field and attempted it and all of a sudden he surged forwars and holy hell did he go! Scared the crap out of me at the time as I really felt out of control simply because I wasnt used to that on him!