Anyone had a horse with lumps like these? Pics

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Anyone come across lumps of oedema like these before? They are on the side of her belly towards back of belly on her right side. They have been there about five weeks and more seem to be appearing. They are oedema and pit when pressed, sometimes you can see them clearly other times you can't really see them but can feel they are there. My horse tells me they are painful. They are not scabby in anyway. They are each about the size of a £2 coin, sometimes they look like they are in a line. She did have a couple appear on her left side same place but they disappeared again after a couple of days, these don't seem to be going. Blood tested normal, they are not protein. She was scoped Thurs with ulcers but not sure these have anything to do with that.

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Hopefully you can see the pics now, the lumps of oedema are not easy to pick up on camera, i've clipped the hair off them to try to see them better. She also has a bit of oedema under her belly, midline and either side of midline.

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Hi, yes I had a horse with lumps a bit like these. His got the size of golf balls they where under his armpit along his belly and inside his back legs. My vet took biopsies and sent them to Liverpool they came back No cancer sells found massive infection, he was not happy with this so took more biopsies from 3 or 4 lumps and sent them of but the results were the same. He was put on a very large amount of antibiotics for which helped but we never got them to go completely. Sadly we lost him to colic 6 months later maybe due to the amount of antibiotics he was getting. I have photos but don't know how to post them but would be happy to email them to you if you pm me.
 
My mare had lumps like these as a reaction to a change of feed.

Could the mare have rolled on something which has given her an allergic reaction?
 
Welly said:
Hi, yes I had a horse with lumps a bit like these. His got the size of golf balls they where under his armpit along his belly and inside his back legs. My vet took biopsies and sent them to Liverpool they came back No cancer sells found massive infection, he was not happy with this so took more biopsies from 3 or 4 lumps and sent them of but the results were the same. He was put on a very large amount of antibiotics for which helped but we never got them to go completely. Sadly we lost him to colic 6 months later maybe due to the amount of antibiotics he was getting. I have photos but don't know how to post them but would be happy to email them to you if you pm me.
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Sorry to hear you lost your horse Welly. I have sent you a pm.
 
New lump last night. This one is different though, its quite big, firm doesn't pit and its slightly under belly on top of the bit of oedema she has under there. No change of bedding or feed, been on same hay since Dec. She's had no antibiotics for a week and no pain killers since last Thurs. She is also itching her neck a lot last couple days but that could be to do with her teeth (tension) as she is also quidding badly. Vet has seen her three times about the other lumps over past month. Possibly its an immune mediated hypersensitivity to drugs but why is it only on her right side? She has a couple of patches of fluid on her right side neck and shoulder which pit. She has four little scabs on forehead which she is itching and she has a small scab on each back fetlock which has been there since December which is slowly healing, slow as in it takes a week to do what healing most scabs do in a day. She can't have any steroids as she was scoped last week with quite bad ulcers everywhere scope went. The drug hypersensitivity thing is because when she had finadyne week before last it turned inside of her lips red, gave her ulcers on mouth (both now gone) and a few hives for a few hours after having finadyne.
Anyone had anything similar?

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My Welsh D got these early winter, turned out to be mite bites. He wasn't itching too much or anything, just lumpy under his tummy, on his side and where his saddle goes. They looked like the ones your horse has, all clustered together. The vet said to try the mite injection first so we could rule that out before moving on to further investgations... They went away so I defo believe it was mites from his straw. There are chickens on the yard and they carry them so they possibly came from them.
 
Cheshire Chestnut said:
My Welsh D got these early winter, turned out to be mite bites. He wasn't itching too much or anything, just lumpy under his tummy, on his side and where his saddle goes. They looked like the ones your horse has, all clustered together. The vet said to try the mite injection first so we could rule that out before moving on to further investgations... They went away so I defo believe it was mites from his straw. There are chickens on the yard and they carry them so they possibly came from them.
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Were they hot and painful and did they pit when you pressed them? And was he rugged and clipped? - shes not actually clipped, other than over the lumps, but her coat is fine like shes clipped. The scabs on back of her fetlocks were caused by karidox again, they aren't mites.
 
Silverfire said:
Were they hot and painful and did they pit when you pressed them? And was he rugged and clipped? - shes not actually clipped, other than over the lumps, but her coat is fine like shes clipped. The scabs on back of her fetlocks were caused by karidox again, they aren't mites.
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Some of them did and others didn't. They were warm for the first day or so and then stayed lumpy but normal temp for weeks. He's not clipped but was rugged with a medium/thin rug.
 
I have something similar with my mare, she has these swellings just in front of her udders on each side, moving forward along the ventral line. She has had them for about 3 years. They go down with exercise but not disappear completely. My vet has done a biopsy and says it is lymph tissue, maybe a possible injury at some point and so fluid gathers there. He said just to keep an eye on it.
 
Yes, my lad gets them every year. They are a reaction to fly bites. They can get massive. The flies are really bad already this week. I had to buy him a boet style fly rug.
 
Thanks for your replies every one. This is what it looks like today. Some of the lumps are smaller today about 20p size but not sure whether they are going or moving down to join the big lump.

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Today the lumps have almost gone, just a couple small ones left and even the new big lump is going down. Not sure why. Weds night she was quidding really badly and she was in a very bad mood so gave her some norodine antibiotic to help her teeth and she also started some ulcer treatment with ranitidine, which swapped to cimetidine last night. I'm wondering now whether her ulcers might be causing the oedema in some way.
 
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