anyone had any dealings with or know of............????

[sam259]

I have very recently had a terrible experience regarding a certain horse dealers in Wiltshire. I saw their adverts on Horsemart. I am currently in the process of seeing Solicitors and taking them to court. I have been recently told that he has been getting his stock from Jamie Gray which can be proved. I paid him a deposit for a Friesion Mare (proof retained) arranged transport then as I was standing in the Halifax two days prior to collection actually transfering the money the dealers called me and stated that they was refusing to sell the horse to me. I have several witnesses including the bank manager of Halifax who talked to them on my behalf. He stated to the Bank Manager that the deposit would be returned within 7 days but no deposit arrived. He is refusing to return my deposit and has been extremely hurtful and rude. The horse was meant for my daughter who has had a very tough year. She has been bullied very badly at school to the point where the bullies set fire to her clothing. My Daughter is so upset as the horse was for her Birthday.
Private messages would be appreciated

 

[martlin]

Hmm, if you are taking them to court, you shouldn't be discussing the case on an open forum, me thinks

 

[hadfos]

If you have all the relevant paper work saying you paid deposit and you are taking him to court then you are doing all that can be done!!
However i would reccomend you delete this post if you are taking him to court

 

[sam259]

Just want to know if anyone has had a simila experience in dealing with them

 

[martlin]

I don't know them, haven't had any experience with them at all.
But I do know that your post might be deemed defamatory and be removed by Admin as it breeches forum's T&Cs.

 

[hadfos]

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Just want to know if anyone has had a simila experience in dealing with them

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Delete post and repost as...."anyone had any dealings with or know of............????"Please PM me if you have!
Ask for PM's,which are private messages

This forum is viewed by many,and if you have an ongoing coutcase it could be viewed as slander on your part if someone they know get hold of it

 

[hadfos]

And what they say above,lol!!
there can be alot of recriminations when you post to much info,especially for you...i realise you maybe didnt realise this!!

 

[martlin]

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I have very recently had a terrible experience regarding certain horse dealers in Wiltshire. His adverts are shown on Horsemart. I am currently taking them to court. I have been told that he has been getting his stock from Jamie Gray. I paid him a deposit for a Friesion Mare then he refused to sell it to me. He is refusing to return my deposit and has been extremely rude. My Daughter is so upset as the horse was for her Birthday.


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Now, that's better, at least you won't get yourself sued

 

[Cliqmo]

Booo hoo! I didn't read it beforehand and now I feel left out of the cool gossip!!

 

[martlin]

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Booo hoo! I didn't read it beforehand and now I feel left out of the cool gossip!!

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[Cahill]

i think i know who you mean.

i would definitely buy from him again,no prob.

 

[mrjday]

I will tell this story straight. We had a Friesian mare advertised on horsemart. Sam259 rang up about this horse 26/4/09, she asked question about the horse which i answered and then she said she wanted to buy the horse unseen and told me she was sending a small deposit (in comparison to agreed price of the horse) in the post as cash. The deposit was received on 29/4/09 and she told me that she would send the remainder of the balance in the next few days to the bank account details i gave her. I also at this point recommended a transporter to her, which I believe she went ahead and booked.

On 30/4/09 i received a text from Sam259 who said she had sent the full balance of the money remaining to the account details i gave her and she asked me to go to the bank and check it had arrived (which i assumed meant she had sent the money as a same day transfer). On the same day 30/4/09 i went to the bank at 11:55pm ish and checked the balance and printed a mini statement and the money had not arrived. I assumed maybe it would be there the next day 1/5/09.

On 1/5/09 Sam259 texted me again and called me and asked if the money had arrived, i replied the money was not there on 30/4/09 but i will go and check again today 1/5/09. So on 1/5/09 i went to the bank again and checked balance and got mini statement and again the money was not there again. Having be assured that the money would have been there i began to doubt it ever arriving by this stage.

The bank holiday weekend came and went and 5/5/09 rolled round and Sam259 was texting and calling again to check the bank balance, so off i went to do it and no money was there again. By this stage i knew the money was not coming. I spoke to bank manager and they confirmed they could not see the money coming in their 24 hour forcasts and they told me that the money would have been there by now had it been transfered. And i was advised not to let the horse go until the money had arrived. I kept Sam259 up dated that the money had not arrived. On 6/5/09 i was asked to check the balance again (which by now was getting tedious bearing in mind the nearest bank is a way to go) and the money was not there.
Sam259 then told me she was at the Halifax and was going to "transfer the money manually". I was shocked as this told me that the balance of the money had not ever been sent on 30/4/09 as she originally claimed, having been checking day after day as she asked me to leading me to falsley believe the money was sent.
I made the decision myself not to continue with this sale as i was not happy with the events that had occured to this date which had basically led me to completley distrust Sam259.
I told Sam259 i did not wish to continue with the sale and she then shouted and abused our business.
I have sent the deposit back to her address as cash as she would not give me her bank details to send the deposit back to. I have sent the deposit back and i have never stated to her that I am "refusing" to send back the deposit as stated by Sam259.

I have since found out and been lead to believe she is also a dealer. And that there have been other issues of transfering the correct sums of money to other sellers.

The fact of this whole situation is the balance of the money for the horse was NEVER sent to us even though day after day we were asked by Sam259 to keep checking the balance leading us to believe she was sincere.
So maybe you can see the situation and why we did not continue with the sale.

 

[martlin]

I have to say, I can feel your pain.
What always amazes me is people who feel the need to say they are buying the horse for a child/granny/disabled husband etc when in fact they are trying to make a bit of profit - Why oh why?

Would you refuse to sell a horse to another dealer? I know I wouldn't, unless they were a numpty, but then again I wouldn't sell one to a 'private' numpty either.

 

[Equus Leather]

May I suggest internet or telephone banking. It would save you having to go to the bank all the time to check your balance.

 

[Cahill]

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May I suggest internet or telephone banking. It would save you having to go to the bank all the time to check your balance.

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that is by the wayside.
the point is the money didn`t show.

 

[LadyRascasse]

tbh this is a personal issue and shouldn't be on a public forum, Mr_J_day can i suggest you pm admin and ask them to remove the threads as it is infact deformatory from both of you, it is better of dealt with by the appropirate authoritys.

 

[Equus Leather]

Thanks for pointing out that I am a retard. I don't quite know how the rest of my life would have panned out if I hadn't have known.

"Mental retardation is a generalized, triarchic disorder, characterized by subaverage cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors with onset before the age of 18. ..."

Is this what you were trying to say but couldn't quite get the words out?

 

[Equus Leather]

Ooo posts have been deleted. GwenLP my post is not directed at you, but at the troll that has been deleted.

 

[Beanyowner]

What amazes me is that someone/same person has signed up under a different user name to back up the story of the OP who claims to have a 'disabled' child....and then this new poster has gone round calling everyone retards.

 

[martlin]

QR
It really makes hilarious reading with some post removed, doesn't it???

 

[tasel]

Thread gone wrong - there are two sides to a story... and both sides seem to think they are right, when the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

All I can say is...

TO THE BUYER: NEVER buy a horse unseen... there is no excuse for this. It doesn't matter whether you live in the furthest tip of Scotland and the horse is in Southampton. My horse came from another country, for goodness sake, and I still viewed her. So your daughter wanted a Friesian... how would you have known if they fitted together temperament-wise? Was this one the only Friesian in your price range? If that's the case, that's the wrong reason for buying this particular Friesian.

TO THE SELLER: Get internet and phone banking. Would make your life much easier, especially as a businessman. Give people up to 2 weeks to pay the money. From my experience with banks, you should never trust them to do anything within 7 days.