Anyone have any advice re mare with colic symptoms but not colic.

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Hi everyone,
I’m new here so apologise if this has already been asked and also if it ends up rather long.

I got a lovely little 5 year old TB mare two and a half months ago and from the get go I’ve had some issues with her that have left both my vet and I stumped.

Two weeks after she arrived, I went to the yard and found her on the ground with what I first suspected was colic. Of course the vet was called as an emergency and we followed her advice to get her up and moving around whilst we waited for her to arrive.
The horse was showing some of the common symptoms, biting at her flanks, head nodding and wanting to lie down, but was otherwise herself. She was grazing normally, her appetite was still there (she was desperate to get to my other horses feed bucket) passing wee and pooing, no temperature etc.

By the time the vet arrived about twenty minutes later, the horse was pretty much back to her normal self other than being a bit quieter than normal. She was given a very thorough exam and the vet was confident that it wasn’t colic. She wasn’t sure what was going on, so bloods were taken and a full bloodwork was done. That came back as nothing abnormal detected.

She was put on a course of Bute for a week, initially two sachets a day (am and pm) cutting down to one a day split between two feeds.
Within three days, she was completely fine and you’d have never guessed shed been ill.

When I arrived at the yard this afternoon to do feeds and hay, she was down again, exactly the same as last month. This time there was no flank biting or head bobbing. Again no temperature, she was alert and had an appetite still, pooing and wearing, just very quiet and constantly wanting to lay down and roll.
Called the vet again obviously, and again, within thirty minutes she was fine. She has been given Bute this evening and will be back to Bute am and pm for the next three days.

I’ve been speaking to some horsey friends who have suggested that it could be linked to her hormones as apparently some mares can show colic symptoms when they come into season, and I have to admit in my 35+ years, I’ve never seen or dealt with anything like this, so I’m wondering if it’s something that actually could be a possibility and if anyone else has known anything like this.
I will of course speak to my vet about it when they open tomorrow, and see what they think, but in the meantime I thought it was worth asking here.

Thank you if you’ve read this far, I appreciate you taking the time.
 

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Ulcers or hormones springs to mind might be worth getting her scoped and scan her ovaries.
She’s been scoped for ulcers and given the all clear. That was one of the first things we checked when we got her.

I’m thinking we may have to go down the ovaries being scanned route, I don’t know if my nerves can take this every month lol, and I hate seeing her in pain.
 

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Might be hind gut issues might be worth looking into that.

When Arabi had colic twice he still ate he was just shaking both times he had an impaction but didn't really show the normal symptoms of colic.
 

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Sounds like small spasmodic colics. Clear with your vet, but they generally respond well to 2 sachets of bute and some buscopan (human stuff is fine). Mix to a paste and syringe in, give her an hour to settle and vet if no better. It could be seasonal- ovulation can be painful- I would expect it to stop fairly soon if so because most mares don’t ovulate through the winter months.
 

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My TB mare did very similar, had the vet out a couple of times with suspected colic. We started tracking and it was always 1-2 days before she came into season. Is now on regumate and so far so good 🤞 she’s much happier in herself generally too
 

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My TB mare did very similar, had the vet out a couple of times with suspected colic. We started tracking and it was always 1-2 days before she came into season. Is now on regumate and so far so good 🤞 she’s much happier in herself generally too
I’m going to call the vet again tomorrow to see if they think it could be a hormonal issue.
They have been out twice now and both times have said it’s not colic despite some of the symptoms.
Her hormones are something a friend suggested so it’s worth an ask at least, getting her ovaries scanned sounds like a sensible next step, and if it’s not tha, at least we’ve ticked off another box.

Glad to hear the Regumate is working for your mare x
 

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Keep a diary that includes the weather and temperatures to see if there are any connections.

I had a mare who had colicky episodes, I ended up (with veterinary back up) giving her crushed up buscopan tablets and bute to help with symptoms as that worked for her.

She was also scoped clear for ulcers but after the episodes got closer together I had her rescoped which showed a ball of undigested food at the entrance to her stomach. Sadly I lost her after a field accident lead to another episode which showed another ball had formed. Vet suspected she had delayed gastric emptying. I would perhaps mention this to your vet if she continues to have this episodes after further investigations.

Hope you get some resolution soon as I know how stressful it can be.
 
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We scanned Polly’s ovaries because she kept throwing herself on the ground after she’d been ridden. Colic-like symptoms. Ovaries were clear, but she was later found to have PSSM.

I did have a horse who had short random colic episodes but his heart rate and temperature never changed and he pooed as normal. Turned out he had a cecal impaction that was slowly filling up. He ended up needing surgery.
I am quite cautious about mild but frequent colics because of this.
 
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