anyone looking to buy?

[bungalowpickle]

Is anybody out there looking to buy? i have the most lovely gentle giant for sale and only had one reply and she wants to loan first. I just need to sell before me and my husband end up getting a divorce. We have so many problems at the moment and can't cope with getting my boy back again, I've even said that i'll consider offers as home more important than price. Why can't i sell him?
Anyone looking for a horse or anyone knows of someone looking please pm me.

 

[MrsMozart]

Is he the one in your sig? Looks very nice.

Where have you advertised? Very nice

. Post a link if you want some cc on the advert.

 

[Bowen4Horses]

put the ad on here, some of the clever clogs on here can cc it for you. it seems odd you've only had the one person ring up.

xxx

 

[brightmount]

Don't rule out loaning. I had my horse up for sale for 3 weeks and got only a few views, all of which were unsuitable, so we put her up for loan instead and got 100 enquiries in 3 days. Basically this indicates even if you loan out and the horse is returned it shouldn't be a problem finding another loan home straight away. Just something to consider.

 

[bungalowpickle]

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/advert/11_yrs_17_1_hh_bright_bay_warmblood_surrey/33332
What's wrong with that, any suggestions? Forgot to put that he has Ramiro Z blodlines.
Can't loan again, long story but i want him to find a very nice 'forever home' with someone that deserves a nice horse. He is one in a million i just can't understand why people aren't biting my hand off, he is worth so much more.

 

[suffolkenpuzzled]

He's beautiful, how big is he? Is he forward or could a novice sit on him? I'm looking for something for my hubby-to-be as a wedding gift (shhh don't tell him!!) he obviously jumps very well, is he forward going? is he good on XC? How much are you asking for him?

 

[bungalowpickle]

http://www.horsemart.co.uk/advert/11_yrs_17_1_hh_bright_bay_warmblood_surrey/33332

 

[Vicki_Krystal]

The problem is he is 11 with no comp record as such and while he is nice 5k is buying horses out there and competing beyond Discovery at the moment.

 

[bungalowpickle]

The problem is he has bsja points,( i think that's what they are) but from before i owned him. i don't compete never wanted to. The lady that had him on loan when i was pregnant was jumping bn on a ticket and my mate took him out to do dressage and did quite well i think it was 70% or there abouts. he has the ability i just don't have the inclination!! He is quite capable he has a massive jump he just needs someone who wants to compete then he would have had a record. Very frustrating.

 

[Ziggy_]

I don't mean this to come across as rude, but....

If I recall rightly, you've been trying to sell this horse on and off for months. You've posted the ad several times on here and been told he's overpriced, and loaned him out only to take him back when the loaner offered you less than full price for him.

He's 11 years old, doesn't seem to have any competition experience to speak of, and lets not forget the market is crap ATM. I don't understand why you don't cut your losses and drop his price - it must be costing you enough to keep looking after him?

Sorry to be blunt and I don't mean to cause offence, but you've posted this ad umpteen times on here, had CC, disregarded it, and continued to post links to your ad, which is tantamount to advertising and against T&Cs.

 

[Vicki_Krystal]

Yeah but it is a buyers market and i know that if i had 5k for a comp horse i would either buy something already out there competing or a nice 4 year old - not an 11 year old with little experience.

i too think you would be much better off dropping his price by at least 1k to sell him

 

[bungalowpickle]

I'm not advertising someone asked me to put a link for some advice. And you are right, i was selling him before and i didn't sell him to the person loaning him as it turns out they just wanted a free horse for a year and i've been told they never had any intention of buying him ever, this is what they do to get a horse above their means. And as for not listening and taking your fabulous advice i've dropped his price from £8000 to £5500 and i've said i'm open to offers. So how is it i'm not taking your advice??

 

[RussianGirl]

My advice?
-Get it out of capital letters.
-Get better conformational pictures.
-Drop the price by at least £1000

 

[bungalowpickle]

If someone offered me 4500 and i thought that they could give him a nice home i'd sell him for 4500

 

[RussianGirl]

£8000!!! Not to be rude, I'm awestruck that you thought he would get that!

 

[bungalowpickle]

Why do people only buy horses advertised in lower case? I don't think you can change adverts once posted can you? As i said i'm open to offers. I JUST WANT A GOOD HOME FOR HIM.

 

[Vicki_Krystal]

well i would advertise him at £4750 if you will accept £4500.
If you really want to sell him you may have to drop lower - my best friend just brought a fantastic 5 year old, well bred been out and got a few double clears BSJA - was 8k

my friend got her for 5k

 

[Quadro]

if money is an issue and you need a certain price for him why not send him 2 a local comp rider to get some £s on his bsja card or some bd points???? would certainly make him more sellable

 

[bungalowpickle]

I did research and i thought that was a fair price back when i was first selling and i had a few people interested but the couple that made me offers were not the right home for him and as i've said the home is the most important thing. I don't want to underprice as i think that you get what you pay for. Any horse can go out and compete but you can't buy good manners, reb has the ability to compete but doesn;t have a competition record cos i don't compete but he is an incredible horse with incredible manners and i think that's worth paying for.

 

[Bowen4Horses]

he is beautiful... and sounds lovely...

do you want my opinion? it's not worth a great deal, but i'll tell you what i'd think if i was a potential buyer....

i am always slightly put off when there is only a mobile number to ring. i dunno why, and i'm sure not everyone else feels the same.

he's described as a 'gentle giant' with manners to die for. which is great, but also that he can be nappy when hacking alone. i'd be concerned riding a horse that size that was nappy!

for 5500 (in current market) i'd expect something exceptional... eg, completely safe all the time (not ever nappy) or something that has a good competition record under his belt. esp at age 11.

i hate adverts written all in capitals. they are fairly hard to read, and a bit 'shouty'.

you mention a few things he's fairly good at. but none of them are enough to justify the price tag. if he's safe and reliable, play on that, sell him as a mother/daughter share. if he's Mr SJ, talk about that...

um... and i'm not keen on the last photo of him.

i'd advise you to drop his price, get rid of the capitals and pick his strongest point - eg. if he's lovely natured, emphasise that. if he's an excellent jumper, say how high he jumps... etc.

good luck!

 

[diggerbez]

i think he's lovely but what would put me off is his age and his size - he's mahoosive

does he hunt? if he would he might attract that market

i would take out the bit about him being nappy- i know you are being honest but it might send out alarm bells to people- you are better off explaining this on the phone when people ring IMHO. i wouldn't ring up about a horse if the words 17.1hh and nappy were in the same advert

i would put him at £4,500 if you are willing to take it- he does lack competition experience and with him being 11 yu can't bang on about 'potential' really...
good luck with selling him

 

[Damnation]

Take away the capital letters, my pet hate is ads in capitals. I would also drop the price by 1k at least, for his age and his competition record he is overpriced. There are many talented youngsters out there with no competition record for less then that price. He is also prone to napping which will drop his value.
I am not surprised that you didn't get much interest when his price was £8k. You need to remember that he is in his prime with no competition record and the market is pretty flat at the moment.
Izzi

 

[Ziggy_]

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£8000!!! Not to be rude, I'm awestruck that you thought he would get that!

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^ Glad you said it first

I would actually think more like £3.5k would be realistic, so perhaps advertise him at £4k.

I think your problem is that your ad seems to be aiming him at a competition home, which probably isn't going to happen due to issues already mentioned, ie age and lack of experience.

Perhaps you could re-word the ad to aim him more at the RC market, as a nice all rounder that will hack (in company), school, do low level stuff, etc? Generally a nice horse to have fun with, that could go a bit further if required. He is a gorgeous horse, its just finding a market to aim him at and an appropriate price.

 

[bungalowpickle]

Have lowered price and removed capitals, any other suggestions?

 

[Damnation]

I would rephrase it slightly to appeal to (as others have said) a RC type "fun" home. So I would change the "Can be nappy if hacing out alone with an inexperienced rider" to "Good to hack in company".
Really play on his manners, what is he like for a novice to handle on the ground?
My ad would go like this:
"Stunning horse for sale, Ramiro Z bloodlines, manners to burn, good to catch, clip, load, shoe etc. Good to hack in company. Has competed at local dressage with inexperienced rider, scoring 76%. Scopey jump, has jumped BN on a ticket. Good RC type home but has the potential to go further if rider wanted to, current owner isn't competative. Safe, fun horse to have around, sad sale due to owner having a baby".
I would also add things like what is he like for a novice to handle, or ride in the school even? How did he behave at the competitions, What is he like to jump, is he bold, snaffle mouthed? What is he like to ride in a field etc? I.e really play on his good manners and good points

 

[Bowen4Horses]

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Have lowered price and removed capitals, any other suggestions?

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much better!

i think you need to think about your target market. you're probably aiming at someone like me (once i'm confident again)... someone who wants a half decent horse to have fun with, who can go to some local shows and do fairly well... not a competition home (although he has the talent).

therefore i'd describe him as
well mannered, lovely to handle, always eager to please, very loved, family horse, loves to hack (esp in company), well schooled, easy to do, easy to shoe, box, etc

then say he's bred to SJ, can jump ?ft, etc. but he's a total allrounder and has even tried dressage, scoring ?%

leave out the bit about napping, instead say, although he's safe and sane, he's not suitable for a total novice. then explain when people ring.

xxx

 

[bungalowpickle]

I bought him to give me my confidence back after a really bad fall, i thought i'd never ride again until i rode reb, he has been a fabulous horse to own and i've been truly blessed to have owned him. He is so good to handle my old boss' 12 year old used to turn him in and out and groom him and ride him, a young girl at my yard had a horrible fall from a pony at my yard and wanted to get on something to stop her losing her confidence and she rode reb, she was happily cantering him round the school within 5 mins of getting on him. He really is a star.

 

[diggerbez]

thats what you need to be trying to get across in your advert- 'manners to burn, gentle giant, ideal mother/daughter share' etc

 

[Damnation]

Cowboy1- that would be a great thing to put in your advert "Was bought to build up owners confidence after a bad fall and has done just that, ideal confidence giver, handled by 12 year old. Is a confidence giver in the school"

 

[MrsMozart]

Ditto the others. I like Damnation's wording.

All crossed you find a brill home for him, and that your life regains some balance.