Stinkbomb
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If so what are they like, temprement wize etc????
Anyone on here own a Bull mastiff????
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lachlanandmarcus
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Our old neighbours have several. Their ones are absolutely lovely, soft as butter, but good watch dogs, they were good with the old spaniel too. Very Licky.
tiggie
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We have an 8 Year old Bull Mastiff called Maisie.
She is the first one we have had as we always had boxers before.
I had always thought they were abit fierce, but she is the soppiest dog we have ever had and the easiest to look after.
She has never growled in the whole time we have had her and loves everyone she meets. That said, she is no good as a guard dog-would let anyone in and is not as "in your face" as a boxer which I do miss.
She is the first one we have had as we always had boxers before.
I had always thought they were abit fierce, but she is the soppiest dog we have ever had and the easiest to look after.
She has never growled in the whole time we have had her and loves everyone she meets. That said, she is no good as a guard dog-would let anyone in and is not as "in your face" as a boxer which I do miss.
Stinkbomb
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Ah bless. We had a boxer but lost him last october. We are considering a new dog and were thinking of another boxer but we saw a friends bull mastiff yesterday and now were confused!!! He was lovely. I think our old dog was a mastiff x boxer as he had so many of the mastiff traits but we dont really know much about them.
tiggie
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I would have another bull mastiff as they are much less work than a boxer and no where near as energetic as a boxer, but she doesn't love me as much as my boxers did.
If you want something easy to look after that wont eat your house if you go out and leave it, go for a mastiff, if you want some thing that loves to make you laugh and behaves like a puppy until the day it dies have another boxer!
Good Luck Liz.
PS Love the picture of him with the chicken!
If you want something easy to look after that wont eat your house if you go out and leave it, go for a mastiff, if you want some thing that loves to make you laugh and behaves like a puppy until the day it dies have another boxer!
Good Luck Liz.
PS Love the picture of him with the chicken!
dozzie
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I have Old English mastiffs. Mastiffs are lovely dogs. Very laid back generally. They can have problems with cruciate ligs due to their weight and size so you need to make sure you are well insured. They dont need loads of exercise either and as puppies it is really important that they dont get over played with so you need to bear this in mind if you have young children.
I think Bull mastiffs are classified under the dangerous dogs act so have to be muzzled in public but Im not sure. I dont undersatnd why though!!!
The down side is the slobber as it really does get everywhere so if you like clean walls and ceilings you wont enjoy a mastiff! You also need lots of towels to give to visitors!!!
If you do go for a mastiff then do your homework carefully before you buy.
A good mastiff can cost between £800 and £1000.
I think Bull mastiffs are classified under the dangerous dogs act so have to be muzzled in public but Im not sure. I dont undersatnd why though!!!
The down side is the slobber as it really does get everywhere so if you like clean walls and ceilings you wont enjoy a mastiff! You also need lots of towels to give to visitors!!!
If you do go for a mastiff then do your homework carefully before you buy.
A good mastiff can cost between £800 and £1000.
Stinkbomb
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Ah maybe old English Mastiff's are what i mean!!! Yours look lovely!!! Im used to slobber after having the boxer Malic!!!!
Can you recommend and breeders etc???
Can you recommend and breeders etc???
dozzie
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I can for English Mastiffs. Have a look on the English Mastiff Association site (This is the more friendly of the two Mastiff Clubs) and contact David Blackster. Even if he doesnt have any dogs he will be able to give you the names of reputable breeders. Mind you he will give you the tenth degree as to why you want a mastiff !!!
If you dont have any luck get back to me as I do have his number somewhere!!!
If you dont have any luck get back to me as I do have his number somewhere!!!
Stinkbomb
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Ah thanks x
lachlanandmarcus
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Bullmastiffs do NOT come under the dangerous dogs act (post above) and Ive never seen one muzzled.....
The dangerous dogs act covers ONLY the following:
the Pit Bull Terrier
the Japanese tosa
the Dogo Argentino
the Fila Brasileiro
The dangerous dogs act covers ONLY the following:
the Pit Bull Terrier
the Japanese tosa
the Dogo Argentino
the Fila Brasileiro
hellspells
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I don't own one but I will when I have the time. They are such lovely dogs. My friend has a lovely 'little' bitch who only weighs max of 30kg - she's such a poppet its unbelievable. She also has a Douge De Bordeaux (the French version) who is just as lovely - just a huge amount bigger.
dozzie
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the Pit Bull Terrier
the Japanese tosa
the Dogo Argentino
the Fila Brasileiro
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These are the ones that it is illegal to keep. There are others such as rotties that have to be muzzled in public. I am pretty sure I saw Bull mastiff on the list as I was checking re my mastiff. I will try to find out. Not sure if it legislation though. It might be advisory.
ETA
Had a good search and found some information on www. enfo but not really sure if it applies to uk. I suspect it does.
http://www.enfo.ie/
the Pit Bull Terrier
the Japanese tosa
the Dogo Argentino
the Fila Brasileiro
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These are the ones that it is illegal to keep. There are others such as rotties that have to be muzzled in public. I am pretty sure I saw Bull mastiff on the list as I was checking re my mastiff. I will try to find out. Not sure if it legislation though. It might be advisory.
ETA
Had a good search and found some information on www. enfo but not really sure if it applies to uk. I suspect it does.
http://www.enfo.ie/
ShadowFlame
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[ QUOTE ]
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the Pit Bull Terrier
the Japanese tosa
the Dogo Argentino
the Fila Brasileiro
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These are the ones that it is illegal to keep. There are others such as rotties that have to be muzzled in public. I am pretty sure I saw Bull mastiff on the list as I was checking re my mastiff. I will try to find out. Not sure if it legislation though. It might be advisory.
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But Rotties don't HAVE to be muzzled. They're a very common breed around here and I've yet to see one that's been muzzled.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/domestic/dogs.htm states that it is illegal to own the dogs mentioned above, but the only time a dog is required to be muzzled is when the dog shows "ferocious" behaviour. In other countries, yes, Rotties have to be muzzled, but not here.
Back on topic, a neighbour of mine has an Old English Mastiff and he's lovely. So soft and friendly, but be prepared for mountains of drool!
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the Pit Bull Terrier
the Japanese tosa
the Dogo Argentino
the Fila Brasileiro
[/ QUOTE ]
These are the ones that it is illegal to keep. There are others such as rotties that have to be muzzled in public. I am pretty sure I saw Bull mastiff on the list as I was checking re my mastiff. I will try to find out. Not sure if it legislation though. It might be advisory.
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But Rotties don't HAVE to be muzzled. They're a very common breed around here and I've yet to see one that's been muzzled.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/domestic/dogs.htm states that it is illegal to own the dogs mentioned above, but the only time a dog is required to be muzzled is when the dog shows "ferocious" behaviour. In other countries, yes, Rotties have to be muzzled, but not here.
Back on topic, a neighbour of mine has an Old English Mastiff and he's lovely. So soft and friendly, but be prepared for mountains of drool!
dozzie
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GENERAL DOG REGULATIONS
The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 (S.I. No. 442 of 1998) which came into effect on the 1 February, 1999, consolidate and update earlier regulations.
The Regulations place controls on certain breeds of dogs, namely the American Pit Bull Terrier, English Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Bull Mastiff, Doberman Pinscher, German Shepherd (Alsatian), Rhodesian Ridgeback, Rottweiler, Japanese Akita, Japanese Tosa and Bandog and to strains and crosses of these dogs.
These controls require that:
These dogs, or types and crosses thereof, must whenever they are in a public place, be kept on a short strong lead by a person over 16 years of age who is capable of controlling them, and
These dogs must be muzzled whenever they are in a public place.
This is taken from the Enfo site which is regulations regarding Northern Ireland which is, I believe, part of the UK. The defra site doesnt state any of this. I actually couldnt find anything with regards to the uk now despite having found it in the past. I just remember being relieved that my dogs werent on the list but puzzled as to why Bull Mastiffs were. I would also question German Shepherds and Dobies as in the right hands these are lovely dogs they just got a bad reputation because of the idiots that thought it was macho to have them and mistreat them. Dont know much about the other breeds on the list.
Interesting! Is this a case of Defra/government back pedalling LOL!!!
Also back on topic...Mastiffs are fab! Bull mastiffs or English Mastiffs. But have a good look on the OEMC and Mastiff association websites to get a real picture of wht you would be letting yourself in for! And whatever you do....Never let them get on the bed!!!! You will never get them off!!!!!
Well...food might help!! LOL!!
The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 (S.I. No. 442 of 1998) which came into effect on the 1 February, 1999, consolidate and update earlier regulations.
The Regulations place controls on certain breeds of dogs, namely the American Pit Bull Terrier, English Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Bull Mastiff, Doberman Pinscher, German Shepherd (Alsatian), Rhodesian Ridgeback, Rottweiler, Japanese Akita, Japanese Tosa and Bandog and to strains and crosses of these dogs.
These controls require that:
These dogs, or types and crosses thereof, must whenever they are in a public place, be kept on a short strong lead by a person over 16 years of age who is capable of controlling them, and
These dogs must be muzzled whenever they are in a public place.
This is taken from the Enfo site which is regulations regarding Northern Ireland which is, I believe, part of the UK. The defra site doesnt state any of this. I actually couldnt find anything with regards to the uk now despite having found it in the past. I just remember being relieved that my dogs werent on the list but puzzled as to why Bull Mastiffs were. I would also question German Shepherds and Dobies as in the right hands these are lovely dogs they just got a bad reputation because of the idiots that thought it was macho to have them and mistreat them. Dont know much about the other breeds on the list.
Interesting! Is this a case of Defra/government back pedalling LOL!!!
Also back on topic...Mastiffs are fab! Bull mastiffs or English Mastiffs. But have a good look on the OEMC and Mastiff association websites to get a real picture of wht you would be letting yourself in for! And whatever you do....Never let them get on the bed!!!! You will never get them off!!!!!
ShadowFlame
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Well either that doesn't apply to England, or I meet hundreds of people every week who are breaking the law. Those are all common or fairly common breeds, and the majority of the time around here they are off lead and unmuzzled.
dozzie
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Yes agree! And if it is the law in England too it isnt very well advertised!!!
Maybe i will contact Defra and ask them to clarify the rules! LOL!! I am really puzzled myself now!!!
Maybe i will contact Defra and ask them to clarify the rules! LOL!! I am really puzzled myself now!!!
djlynwood
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That is the correct legislation for Northern Ireland. You are not allowed to keep any of the breeds mentioned if you live in council property in Norther Ireland. Hundreds of dogs are having to be rehomed or PTS. There are a few charities in England that are transporting as many dogs at risk and trying to find homes for them over here.
There are councils in England that are slowly bringing in designated areas where you have to keep your dog on lead and this is not just restricted to childrens play areas.
There are councils in England that are slowly bringing in designated areas where you have to keep your dog on lead and this is not just restricted to childrens play areas.
dozzie
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Thanks for clarifying.
millimoo
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My mum is on her fourth!
Her current dog is 3yrs old and called Bodger. He's a total couch potato in the house, but outside he's incredibly athletic and bouncy. He's also the size of a small pony. He's amazing with young children in the house - but we are careful outside as he's lively and his size means he could unitentionally knock them over.
He adores everyone and is loving and loyal. However the breed can be stubborn, and training and socialisation from an early age is important.
They can also suffer ear & skin complaints, and apparently Lymphoma is endemic in the breed (we lost one to it at 8 yrs of age), however they are such super dogs it wouldn't put us off,. plus every pedigree has the risk of health problems (boxers suffer similar conditions) - thats why its important to go to a reputable breeder.
Our last two are from the Evenstar Kennels in Liverpool.
Goodluck whatever you decide.
Her current dog is 3yrs old and called Bodger. He's a total couch potato in the house, but outside he's incredibly athletic and bouncy. He's also the size of a small pony. He's amazing with young children in the house - but we are careful outside as he's lively and his size means he could unitentionally knock them over.
He adores everyone and is loving and loyal. However the breed can be stubborn, and training and socialisation from an early age is important.
They can also suffer ear & skin complaints, and apparently Lymphoma is endemic in the breed (we lost one to it at 8 yrs of age), however they are such super dogs it wouldn't put us off,. plus every pedigree has the risk of health problems (boxers suffer similar conditions) - thats why its important to go to a reputable breeder.
Our last two are from the Evenstar Kennels in Liverpool.
Goodluck whatever you decide.