Splashie
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Does anyone have any experince with this bit?
I have researched it quite a bit but just wondered if anyone had any sucess stories?
I have researched it quite a bit but just wondered if anyone had any sucess stories?
Anyone recommend Myler Combination bits?
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qwertyuiop
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I used 1 for a while and it did the job until we were ready to move on.
rolls1392
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Used one for a while when gelding was very strong xc.
Did a great job, but moved on to softer bit as training went on.
But like the bit and would use again if needed.
Did a great job, but moved on to softer bit as training went on.
But like the bit and would use again if needed.
GatefieldHorses
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yeh i have one and used it in a few strong horses and also found it good for strong horses who r fussy in the mouth as doesnt just focus on the mouth!
catembi
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I use one with the same mouthpiece as my dr bit as Adrian is a madam with bits. If I try him in anything strong enough to hold him, he will get the a**e & refuse to jump at all. The myler combi is good as the pressure is on the nose as well as the mouth so it gives him less to object to. He goes fwd enough to take a hold but doesn't run through my hand.
punk
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Contrary to what a lot of people think, the short-shank Myler combination is not a severe bit at all!!
It is most useful with horses that resent pressure on the bars of the mouth (ie throwing head up when pressure applied), and do respond to nose pressure, which is actually kinder.
We have an event horse that is not STRONG at all, but will throw his head when contact is applied in a normal bit on approach to a fence x-country. In the Myler combination, adjusted properly (see their website), the nose pressure comes first, and he totally accepts that. All horses are different!!!!
It is most useful with horses that resent pressure on the bars of the mouth (ie throwing head up when pressure applied), and do respond to nose pressure, which is actually kinder.
We have an event horse that is not STRONG at all, but will throw his head when contact is applied in a normal bit on approach to a fence x-country. In the Myler combination, adjusted properly (see their website), the nose pressure comes first, and he totally accepts that. All horses are different!!!!
MissDeMeena
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Well i HATE them, sorry to say it, but i do!!! The only horses i find tolerate them are the ones that don't need them, ie the ones with a nice mouth and good steering.. A horse with any sort of problem, a myler combo bit would be the last thing i'd use!!!!!
poggio
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Totally agree with above, the bit is not necessarily severe! I have a straightforward snaffle mouthpiece and a small 2 ring gag type cheek piece on mine.
It has worked WONDERS for my boy. He is not in the slightest bit strong, has the softest, loveliest mouth - but - it is very small and fleshy and ridiculously sensitive. The Myler is the only bit that he has settled too, that hasn't rubbed/made sore and he has gone well in (he also wears the snaffle for flatwork).
I decided to try it as similarly above, although he was never strong or difficult he would totally freak at the slightest contact on his mouth and throw his head up and charge at the fence (if we were lucky!) or just literally throw a tantrum in front of the fence. (and before anyone jumps on this, he is 100% fine physically, teeth done every 6months etc, you name it Ive tried it) friend suggested trying the combination bit and hes a different horse! So glad Ive found something he's happy in
and im not one for changing bits around, im normally a plain snaffle kinda girl!
Its definitely worth a try, but don't rely on it to solve any problems, I exhausted every route possible before deciding the bit was the problem.
It has worked WONDERS for my boy. He is not in the slightest bit strong, has the softest, loveliest mouth - but - it is very small and fleshy and ridiculously sensitive. The Myler is the only bit that he has settled too, that hasn't rubbed/made sore and he has gone well in (he also wears the snaffle for flatwork).
I decided to try it as similarly above, although he was never strong or difficult he would totally freak at the slightest contact on his mouth and throw his head up and charge at the fence (if we were lucky!) or just literally throw a tantrum in front of the fence. (and before anyone jumps on this, he is 100% fine physically, teeth done every 6months etc, you name it Ive tried it) friend suggested trying the combination bit and hes a different horse! So glad Ive found something he's happy in
Its definitely worth a try, but don't rely on it to solve any problems, I exhausted every route possible before deciding the bit was the problem.
poggio
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why do you say that MDS ???
I tried one on the chestnut in my piccy and hated it, he also has a soft, sensitive mouth and is very easy and manouverable but the trickest horse to jump (leslie jumped him for me once, got off him handed me the reins back and walked off shaking his head! lol) Didn't work for that horse so have dismissed the bit ever since saying I didnt like them, so was a bit dubious of trying it on my other horse, but he has settled to it so well (and as I said he works in a myler snaffle on the flat too) and I am 100% happy to keep him in it.
I tried one on the chestnut in my piccy and hated it, he also has a soft, sensitive mouth and is very easy and manouverable but the trickest horse to jump (leslie jumped him for me once, got off him handed me the reins back and walked off shaking his head! lol) Didn't work for that horse so have dismissed the bit ever since saying I didnt like them, so was a bit dubious of trying it on my other horse, but he has settled to it so well (and as I said he works in a myler snaffle on the flat too) and I am 100% happy to keep him in it.
samstar
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Well i HATE them, sorry to say it, but i do!!! The only horses i find tolerate them are the ones that don't need them, ie the ones with a nice mouth and good steering.. A horse with any sort of problem, a myler combo bit would be the last thing i'd use!!!!!
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Ditto, my new pony came with a myler comfort snaffle and she was always chomping on it and couldn't wait for it to come out of her mouth( would actually help me when taking bridle off).
She is now in a hanging cheek french link snaffle and very happy.
Well i HATE them, sorry to say it, but i do!!! The only horses i find tolerate them are the ones that don't need them, ie the ones with a nice mouth and good steering.. A horse with any sort of problem, a myler combo bit would be the last thing i'd use!!!!!
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Ditto, my new pony came with a myler comfort snaffle and she was always chomping on it and couldn't wait for it to come out of her mouth( would actually help me when taking bridle off).
She is now in a hanging cheek french link snaffle and very happy.
lucretia
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first beforse saying talking about a myler cobination i think you should accurately describe the mouth piece you have in mind there are lots. but that said, obviously there are some horses for whom they work but generally i am with MDM.
apart from amything elae they are invented by people whose principle interest is american reining horses and therefore are used to riding with little contact. and certainly do not have in mind the very strong setting its jaw leaning on the rein type. also running martingales ( barely used in the usa) change their action and in many cases interfere with it and really should not be used together. and people who use them with drop or flash nosebands are creating an instrument of torture no wonder their horses dont run off.
i have discussed the fitting and use of the with their reps over here and their company honcho's in the states and also read the Myler brothers book with great interest and i am sure there is a place for them but i see rather too many bleeding mouths at the end of the xc to be a fan.
apart from amything elae they are invented by people whose principle interest is american reining horses and therefore are used to riding with little contact. and certainly do not have in mind the very strong setting its jaw leaning on the rein type. also running martingales ( barely used in the usa) change their action and in many cases interfere with it and really should not be used together. and people who use them with drop or flash nosebands are creating an instrument of torture no wonder their horses dont run off.
i have discussed the fitting and use of the with their reps over here and their company honcho's in the states and also read the Myler brothers book with great interest and i am sure there is a place for them but i see rather too many bleeding mouths at the end of the xc to be a fan.
dieseldog
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My horse really likes hers. I use a M32 Triple Barrell mouthpiece. I can take a contact in it without her throwing her head all over the place. She was really fussy in her mouth when I bought her.
Depending on the mouthpiece they aren't strong bits at all. So if you are thinking of using one as your horse is strong be careful choosing the right mouthpiece.
Depending on the mouthpiece they aren't strong bits at all. So if you are thinking of using one as your horse is strong be careful choosing the right mouthpiece.
poggio
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and people who use them with drop or flash nosebands are creating an instrument of torture no wonder their horses dont run off.
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Just interested to know the theory behind this as I have never used with a noseband but know of people who have.
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i am sure there is a place for them but i see rather too many bleeding mouths at the end of the xc to be a fan.
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I have never experienced a cut, bleeding mouth with any Myler bit (not saying it doesnt happen) but I have had to wipe many a bleeding mouths after the chase, xc etc. in the 'traditional' english type bits!
This is one of the reasons I changed to a Myler with mine, every bit I tried caused friction sores and a sore mouth (the horse isnt strong so have always ridden with the lightest of hands and I have never caused a sore mouth before so was horrified to find it happening!) but the Mylers have been brilliant for this and he has not had the slightest of sores or rubs since.
and people who use them with drop or flash nosebands are creating an instrument of torture no wonder their horses dont run off.
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Just interested to know the theory behind this as I have never used with a noseband but know of people who have.
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i am sure there is a place for them but i see rather too many bleeding mouths at the end of the xc to be a fan.
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I have never experienced a cut, bleeding mouth with any Myler bit (not saying it doesnt happen) but I have had to wipe many a bleeding mouths after the chase, xc etc. in the 'traditional' english type bits!
This is one of the reasons I changed to a Myler with mine, every bit I tried caused friction sores and a sore mouth (the horse isnt strong so have always ridden with the lightest of hands and I have never caused a sore mouth before so was horrified to find it happening!) but the Mylers have been brilliant for this and he has not had the slightest of sores or rubs since.
punk
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MDS - further to my post above and your reply, I was very sceptical of trying the Myler COMBINATION (as opposed to the Myler snaffle or others) BECAUSE of what you say! The whole thing LOOKED so complicated and severe. It wasn't until I had done some research on the fitting and reasoning behind it that I decided to try.
My horse has an exceptionally soft mouth, and is very well schooled (has always been ridden by teenagers 13 and upwards, and up to Intermediate BE). However, he is a very keen horse, who thinks he knows it all! I reckon he would probably do x-c in a headcollar, as that would do much the same thing - ie pressure on the nose first, therefore no need to pull on his mouth - makes him able to focus on the jump ahead without resenting the pressure on his mouth.
Wouldn't ever use it on a horse that pulls hard and pulls down.
My horse has an exceptionally soft mouth, and is very well schooled (has always been ridden by teenagers 13 and upwards, and up to Intermediate BE). However, he is a very keen horse, who thinks he knows it all! I reckon he would probably do x-c in a headcollar, as that would do much the same thing - ie pressure on the nose first, therefore no need to pull on his mouth - makes him able to focus on the jump ahead without resenting the pressure on his mouth.
Wouldn't ever use it on a horse that pulls hard and pulls down.
MissDeMeena
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I always use quick reply btw, so my posts are never aimed at anyone, just whoever happened to post before me!!
To make it more clear, the Myler bits i don't like are ANY of the ones with the twisty joints, (not sure what the tech name for them is).. therefore any shaped mouth, but with the joints so you can twist them in any direction you want..
the 'normal' Myler bits, ie just a shaped snaffle etc. that fit the mouth in a comfort shape, i don't have a problem with.
I once rode a rather hard mouthed, strong horse in a myler combination bit, so it had the rope over the nose and the twisty joint in the mouth, and every time the horse fought it, the bit would almost twist right round making the situation 100xs worse!!
I'd never use one again on a horse like that.
To make it more clear, the Myler bits i don't like are ANY of the ones with the twisty joints, (not sure what the tech name for them is).. therefore any shaped mouth, but with the joints so you can twist them in any direction you want..
the 'normal' Myler bits, ie just a shaped snaffle etc. that fit the mouth in a comfort shape, i don't have a problem with.
I once rode a rather hard mouthed, strong horse in a myler combination bit, so it had the rope over the nose and the twisty joint in the mouth, and every time the horse fought it, the bit would almost twist right round making the situation 100xs worse!!
I'd never use one again on a horse like that.
carthorse
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We use a comfort snaffle for dressage and the same sort of bit but with the slots for jumping , both horses go very sweetly in them
PapaFrita
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I bought one to try with PF as she can get strong. Mine is a short shank combination and she didn't go well in it at all. Not that I found it strong! Totally the reverse; steering was, at best, fuzzy and no decent brakes!! I use a tom thumb french link now (or I did until she took maternity leave) and she goes really well in it
Eriskayowner
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I've got Jazz in a long shank myler combination bit. When I took him on, I was told that he has no brakes. He'd been tried in pretty much everything as well.
He is now light, soft, and starting to drop his head rather than raising it and running through the contact. A much happier and settled horse now.
I occasionally put my comfort snaffle on him as well, in the school, and he's becoming more responsive in that as well.
Before, it would be a battle for him to slow down, whereas now it's a very light touch on his mouth - much kinder, despite the bit being labelled as "severe" - surely hardly touching his mouth is better for him than practically having to saw his face off?!
He is now light, soft, and starting to drop his head rather than raising it and running through the contact. A much happier and settled horse now.
I occasionally put my comfort snaffle on him as well, in the school, and he's becoming more responsive in that as well.
Before, it would be a battle for him to slow down, whereas now it's a very light touch on his mouth - much kinder, despite the bit being labelled as "severe" - surely hardly touching his mouth is better for him than practically having to saw his face off?!