Anyone used Dengie Healthy Tummy?

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Treating my mare as though she may have ulcers as she has been a bit touchy when doing the girth up etc recently as per my other posts. I have read up about the Dengie Healthy Tummy complete and seen some good reviews on it for soothing the stomach and improving condition.
She only gets worked 3 times a week during the darker months and needs feeding everyday for her Ulsasoothe supplement that I have just started trialing a week a go.
I see it says on the info of this new feed that it's good for stressy or fizzy horses and in light work but I saw a review somewhere that it made their horse loopy so I don't know what to do! She doesn't need any extra energy and is a good doer. Was planning on only giving a handful with the supplement.
Has anyone used it or know of someone that has? If so, what was the outcome like?
Sorry for rambling! Thank you!
 
I used to feed it - but I think the alfalfa base didn't agree and gave him too much energy. Now use Thunderbrooks healthy herbal chaff which seems to suit him much better. Has a scoop per feed with his supplements.
 
I used it with good results for Lippi that gets very loose in the winter, this year I have used MVF Alfalfa original and added the Protexin Gut Balancer as it works out much cheaper and same results. Can adjust the amounts of alfalfa to how much works he's doing but keep the Protexin the same.
 
I used it on my old Thoroughbred mare. She looked fantastic on it and it had no adverse effect on her behaviour :) The two geldings and my little coblet also had it for a couple of weeks whilst the feed shop was out of Healthy Hooves and were completely unaffected in terms of how they acted.
 
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Its not something I would feed for lots of reasons and almost certainly not going to be the miracle cure your looking for. Has she seen a good physio/body worker? Mine arrived much poorer than he should have for a HW cob and I was almost certain he was ulcery. He definitely reacted to the ulcer pressure point check and definitely had the ulcery look.

He went on to an ulcer friendly diet straight away to be monitored for a few weeks to see how he went. He also had the usual back/teeth/saddle checks. His back check highlighted him being quite sore in a lot of places. He was treated and hes been a different horse ever since.

The other thing I can suggest is Pink Mash. I know some dont like it as its soya based but I find horses do incredibly well on it and its a much better option than Healthy Tummy.

But please dont spend too much time and money trying different feeds and supplements. In almost all cases ulcers are a side effect of pain or extreme stress and they wont go away until you find the root cause. If mine hadnt responded very positively in the first few weeks I had him then he would have been scoped and then almost certainly had a performance work up. This is still something I have on the back burner for him if he doesnt continue to improve and/or if I have question marks over anything.

You can feed them appropriately and give them any and all sorts of supplements but if there is a physical issue then you are throwing good money after bad.
 
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Its not something I would feed for lots of reasons and almost certainly not going to be the miracle cure your looking for. Has she seen a good physio/body worker? Mine arrived much poorer than he should have for a HW cob and I was almost certain he was ulcery. He definitely reacted to the ulcer pressure point check and definitely had the ulcery look.

He went on to an ulcer friendly diet straight away to be monitored for a few weeks to see how he went. He also had the usual back/teeth/saddle checks. His back check highlighted him being quite sore in a lot of places. He was treated and hes been a different horse ever since.

The other thing I can suggest is Pink Mash. I know some dont like it as its soya based but I find horses do incredibly well on it and its a much better option than Healthy Tummy.

But please dont spend too much time and money trying different feeds and supplements. In almost all cases ulcers are a side effect of pain or extreme stress and they wont go away until you find the root cause. If mine hadnt responded very positively in the first few weeks I had him then he would have been scoped and then almost certainly had a performance work up. This is still something I have on the back burner for him if he doesnt continue to improve and/or if I have question marks over anything.

You can feed them appropriately and give them any and all sorts of supplements but if there is a physical issue then you are throwing good money after bad.
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Hi, she has had her back, teeth etc checked. She's seen the physio as well and also had the saddle refitted and reflocked. The only reason I could possibly think of that caused them if she does have them as she's lived out all her life apart from the short time she went to a loan home for a couple of months before I got her. She went to the loan home extremely overweight as she was turned out for a few years not doing anything and came back very very slim so it could have potentially been the new home working her possibly on an empty stomach and not enough turn out and hay. I have had her since October last year and she has always been a bit touchy with her chest etc so if it was ulcers, wouldn't they have got worse? She's always been a generally grumpy horse as well which is why I'm trialling new feeds to see if they do make any difference and if they do, then it gives me my answer that she is likely to have ulcers and I will get her scoped and treated. What did you feed your ulcer prone horse?
 
Try topspec ulcerkind cubes. My lad did well on them, but the ulcers were caused by pain from hock arthritis. Once the hocks were injected, the ulcers went away. You could do a bute or preferably, danillon trial for a week or two to see if her attitude improves, under vet supervision of course? Then you would know whether it's pain related, needing further investigation.
 
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Achinghips said:
Try topspec ulcerkind cubes. My lad did well on them, but the ulcers were caused by pain from hock arthritis. Once the hocks were injected, the ulcers went away. You could do a bute or preferably, danillon trial for a week or two to see if her attitude improves, under vet supervision of course? Then you would know whether it's pain related, needing further investigation.
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Thank you, I'll look into those. I read somewhere that bute was bad for ulcers. Before suspecting, she cut her leg which got infected so was on a course of that, anti-inflammatory etc and didn't make an difference with her touchyness. Sorted her leg out though!
 
Ellietotz said:
Thank you, I'll look into those. I read somewhere that bute was bad for ulcers. Before suspecting, she cut her leg which got infected so was on a course of that, anti-inflammatory etc and didn't make an difference with her touchyness. Sorted her leg out though!
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Use danillon then if you're worried, but don't forget this would only be a short term trial. ��

If the danillon trial proves no change in mood, after a week or so, you could try a ranitidine (specifically for both hind and fore gut ulcers) trial for a week or so and see if she feels better.

It's up to you.
 
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Notimetoride said:
It's good, but mine wasn't on it long as the alfalfa sent her doollally
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This is what I worry about. I need something to put her supplements in and like to give her a feed but I don't need her putting on weight or needing more energy. Maybe I'll just go back to Dengie molasses free chaff and give it to her on its own. Just seems boring. She's a good doer so doesn't really need it I guess.
 
Achinghips said:
Use danillon then if you're worried, but don't forget this would only be a short term trial. ��

If the danillon trial proves no change in mood, after a week or so, you could try a ranitidine (specifically for both hind and fore gut ulcers) trial for a week or so and see if she feels better.

It's up to you.
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Been look at the ranitidine and it sounds good but worry about giving drugs umprescribed. Seen loads of good reviews on Coligone, pink powder and Equine America U Gard. Can't choose though!
 
JJS said:
I used it on my old Thoroughbred mare. She looked fantastic on it and it had no adverse effect on her behaviour :) The two geldings and my little coblet also had it for a couple of weeks whilst the feed shop was out of Healthy Hooves and were completely unaffected in terms of how they acted.
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I'm currently feeding it to my elderly TB mare and she seems well on it. She's a bit crazy, but she was crazy before this feed lol
 
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