Appleby horse death

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Somebody must know who that is. Presumably they just left the horse where it dropped :(

Another example of outrage after the event, but people must have seen this unfolding and did nothing. There was a drive near me a couple of weeks ago and the level of abuse and cruelty was shocking. The police just stood by and watched. Animal cruelty is a crime after all, but nobody wants to act 😡
 

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"The standard of horsemanship among Gypsy people is usually high and they are often among the first to report abuse at the fair when they see it.”

really?! Since when?
This is largely part of the problem imo. A lot of gypsies do look after their horses, but have only themselves to blame when they get tarred with the same brush as they don’t call it out. Back to the drive near me, there were some beautiful horses who probably were well cared for, but they said nothing to the idiots ragging their trotters around all day without any consideration for anyone.
 

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I have a very low opinion of travellers, having lived in two different parts of the country with large traveller communities where in both locations, neglect was in plain sight. Horses left tethered to the side of the road, in 30C+ heat with no food, shade or water was a very common site. A couple of times I had to call the RSPCA over collapsed horses, yet decades later nothing has changed. Local charities have saved horses on the brink of death who were dumped by these communities with no care whatsoever as to whether or not they lived or died.

I am generally a liberal minded person in support of minorities living their lives as these choose, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. I also don't want to tar everyone with the same brush, but my first hand experience of the traveller community has only been bad thus so far. The photos of Appleby of horses being ragged around don't do them any favours.

Poor poor youngster :(
 

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I lived for years in a village in the West Country where there was an annual 'traditional' horse fair held in the village. It had started life 700 years previously as a sheep fair, but over the most recent few decades the travelling community had taken hold and it turned into a horse fair. I honestly cannot describe the stuff I witnessed or how it made me feel - I would definitely be banned from this forum - but when is someone going to put an end to this s**t ?
 

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Awful. The photo isn’t clear enough but the man and horse look a bit like the one I reported a few months back clattering down an A road in Herts. That was a red trap though. 😢
 

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Another example of outrage after the event, but people must have seen this unfolding and did nothing. There was a drive near me a couple of weeks ago and the level of abuse and cruelty was shocking. The police just stood by and watched. Animal cruelty is a crime after all, but nobody wants to act 😡
Where were the animal rights activists? My brother used to live near a travellers site, they used to shut roads early in the morning and hold races. The police did nothing. Reverse predjudice - they seem to be allowed to get away with what the rest of us cannot.
 

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There is a big difference between the traditional 'Gypsy' and your average modern Appleby attendee.
You’ve hit the nail on the head here- I call them ‘wannabe gypsies’- there are hundreds around here, making the trip to Appleby every year, buying bow tops and horses to match with no idea how to care for a horse correctly. If Appleby was stripped back to pure travellers, there would be less than a quarter of attendees there- and a lot less issues. Most of the wannabes here have their cobs or trotters on a tether and are from low income non traveller households. They go for the craic and the beer- the horse is just a status thing to have there.
 

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You’ve hit the nail on the head here- I call them ‘wannabe gypsies’- there are hundreds around here, making the trip to Appleby every year, buying bow tops and horses to match with no idea how to care for a horse correctly. If Appleby was stripped back to pure travellers, there would be less than a quarter of attendees there- and a lot less issues. Most of the wannabes here have their cobs or trotters on a tether and are from low income non traveller households. They go for the craic and the beer- the horse is just a status thing to have there.
 
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Never acceptable to use a racial slur, no matter if they're wannabes or not.
They call us gorgers. Is that a racial slur too? Travellers aren’t a different race as far as I’m aware. It might be a derogatory term for travellers but it’s not racist.

ETA- I’ve removed my comment to save you being offended.
 

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They call us gorgers. Is that a racial slur too? Travellers aren’t a different race as far as I’m aware. It might be a derogatory term for travellers but it’s not racist.

ETA- I’ve removed my comment to save you being offended.
Gorger isn't inherently derogatory; p*key is, and, unlike gorger, p*key punches down on an ethnic minority. The fact that you censored p*key but not gorger shows that you know the difference in the weight of those two words.

And sure, it's an ethnic slur not a racist slur but that's semantics.
 
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