Just this minute gotten off phone from our nearst supplier and he says the 30kg bags cost £5.85 collected or £6.00 delivered.
Need 10 - 11 30kg bags to set up a 12x14' stable, then 1 bag per week to maintain it.
The supplier I just spoke to said it's weird looking stuff but one of his liveries is on it (changed from shavings apparently) and positively raves about it. A total convert.
The supplier also said I should consider Megazorb. Oh no, here I go again! What's that one like then? He says it's a bigger bag and cheaper than the Aquamax product.
i have gone on to Bedmax recently - and am delighted. Paying #4 + VAT for a 20-25 Kg bag delivered in loads of 25 bales. It is completely dust free - bigger "shavings" of wood, looks like wood chips rather than usual shavings but is v soft and easy to move around. Mucking out is easier and it smells nice too!
I was paying #6.50 a bale for Wooburn Shavings last year (delivered price), but am finding that I need less of this Bedmax stuff per box - using 1 bale every 6 days per box now for my boys that are out during the day but seem to spend all night dedicated to being disgusting......!
I think I know what it is. If its the stuff I am think of (hope it is or im gunna look pretty stupid!
) then It only needs to be totally cleaned out once a year, it is skipped out twice a day and one new bag is added per week.
I think the puprose of this bedding is to reduce the size of muck heaps because of tax.
The lady that I knew who was trying it was very very pleased with it, it didnt smell (well it did but only of fresh pine!!) the bed could still be made thick, but the horse did like to eat bits it at times!!!!!
Aaah, now this is the sort of objective info I was hoping for!
When I read that I should just remove the poohs daily and mix the wet into the clean stuff I kept wondering about the smell. Surely the wet would built up and the ammonia would start to reek.
Know what you mean about dirty! Mine spends the night pooh'ing for Britain then mashing it all in. Then she digs up the wet from underneath and pulls her banks down for good measure, before tramping the whole lot into into a revolting mess. She's the only horse I know which can turn a deep, virgin, shavings bed into total muck-heap fodder in a single night. Ugh... she's vile (but I love her anyway.)
Miss Delia was the same - at the weekend used to totally clear stable, put in four bale of nice clean straw on a Sunday. Monday morning looked like she had never been mucked out for a week - brown dripping mush.
Bought rubber mats - hurray - best money ever spent.
I have used it with my Arab as he had a leaky stable, and as for Dirty he would test the patience of the most dedicated horse owner! But never found it smelt.....just looked dirty? It was skipped out twice a day and wet taken out as well....one bag a week to top it up but I sometimes used more than that...I would definately use it again. Its weird comes in compressed pellet form which you then spray with the hose pipe and it expands to make the bed. You need 10 - 12 bags to start the bed then 1 a week to top it up. They are marketing it to reduce the muckheaps because of the tax the government have put on muckheaps but also it is biodegradeable.
I am supposed to be having rubber mats laid in "Miss Filths" stable sometime this week but was looking into other bedding alternatives in the hope of avoiding the cost.
Maybe if mats are the thing for messy horses I should just go ahead and get them fitted.
Do you use bedding on top to soak up wee? If so, what do you use and how much of it?
I use the stablelite mats which are designed to have no bedding. They also allow pee to drain through leaving the stable nice and dry.
At my first yard, the stable drained out to the front yard where there was a drain.
Put in three buckets of shaving to create a pee spot and just swept out entire stable and hosed down each day in 5 minutes. Fantastic.
The mats paid for themselves within 6 months in terms of saved bedding and I used to have to pay £5 muck out as it was twice as much as a normal bed to do - 3 - 4 burrows a day - reduced to 1/2 burrow. The mats lasted 12 years and then were used in a field shelter - where they still are,
At present yard, we are indoors and drainage is not great.
I put a shavings bed about 3" thick over the back half of the stable. This works really well - no smell and I take mats up once a year and it is not swimming underneath. Takes 10 minutes max to fully muck out and sweep out - and I am not fast.
If I had to put in a full bed for Cairo I would use at least two/three bales of shaving a week. With the mats I use half a bale a week. He is a big horse, poos and pees a lot and needs a very thick bed to stop him ending up on concrete. In the winter he is in at night plus three days a week is in 24 hours.
Hi, im looking for alternative bedding this winter and am cosidering rubber matting and something (dont know what yet) to soak up wee.
Bit confused about matting, is it best to get the ones that you are on about, that wee drains through or to get the ones where wee dosnt drain through? and when you hose them out, which i would probably do at weekends how fast do they dry out? Sounds brilliant thought of making mucking out easier, but which ones???
Debs x
I looked at many types of matting when buying them and went for stablelite (a) they are large heavy mats and my mare box walked - these do not move or rise up (b) I wanted drainage so my stable stayed dry.
Some people prefer ones that do not drain - you don't have to take up the mats but you do have to use some bedding. The stablelites are a complete none bed system.
I have used these mats since 1995 and they are wonderful. My first set lasted ten years and are now in a field shelter. Cairo's are five years old and show no signs of wear.
I take up my mats once a year and hose out the stable. It is a horrible job as they are very heavy and you get filthy. I take them out one day, pressure wash them and the stable, leave them to dry and put them back the next day.
I do use some bed - see post above. Cairo likes to have a bed to lie on - that said most horses are not bothered. Delia and Jemima was happy with a pee spot and would lie down. Cairo is just very pampered.
If you have a dirty horse or are limited on time, they are well worth the outlay. My mats are about £400 for a 12 x 12 stable. After three days of mucking out Chancer, am already considering buying a set for him sooner rather than later.