In regard to buying horses you mean? I don't think anyone could classify me as one - last pony we bought we viewed two and bought the second, previous one we only viewed one and bought it!
No I don't think so. I would only go and see a horse after asking every question I could think of on the phone. And only if I was 100% sure I could afford it and really wanted it.
When I was looking for a horse I viewed one that was not as described but I bought the next one I looked at (Gyp).
Then with Hattie I saw her ad, rang, went and saw her the next day and bought her.
IC, you and TGM sound just like me. I'd never contact someone unless I was seriously considering buying their horse, and I sure as heck would never arrange a viewing unless I was prepared to take cash out of the bank prior to viewing.
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So talking about buying horses? Are you?
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Nope. Always turned up and on time. First one, we bought privately (big mistake - THEY wasted OUR time...and money
) - two others were from dealers and we bought them both straight away, one was from a RS i worked at whilst at uni, and Mo was on loan to us for a year and we were then asked if we wanted to buy her.
We've not really had many opportunities to waste peoples' time.
Maybe one day!
ETS: when shopping, we phone millions of people about their horses and quizzed them, but only went to see a handful.
I'm not a timewaster. But I think I have annoyed some sellers. If I turn up and the horse is not as described (and thus not what I might want), I usually make my apologies and leave - I don't want to waste their time showing me a horse I know I don't want to buy.
When I bought my most recent horse it was a fantastic experience. I turned up on time and the horse was clean and groomed. I asked to see him trotted up, then on the lunge. Then the seller tacked him up and warmed up as usual - nothing hurried. She rode him in walk, trot and canter as a normal schooling session and then asked if I wanted to try him. I walked, trotted and cantered on both reins, tried some leg yielding and shoulder in (horse was a 5yr old), rode some direct transitions, etc, and then got off. Decided I wanted the horse and asked her not to show it to anyone else; I arranged the vetting as soon as I got home, horse was vetted two days later, and I took the horse home the day after that.
That was a really good experience of buying from someone who was a pleasure to deal with. Unfortunately it isn't always like that (on either side).
I have never wasted anyones time with regards to buying a horse, i have however had my time wasted by people not being truthful over the phone. Once i went to see a horse that was NOTHING like described (about a hand smaller for a start) and when i said it wasn't what i was looking for, so no point riding they got really aggressive with me and called me a time waster, in fact that was one of the nicer things they called me, was a bit scarey!!
I do ask alot of questions before viewing, check out any competition records etc, and would only go to view a horse if i was seriously looking, so no i don't think i am a time waster, have met a few tho!!
No- Went to see the team, made an offer on the way home, saw nothing else.
Went to see the pair, week later saw a single, but the single didn't want us to loan her, rang up and made an offer on the pair.
Before that, went to see Prince once, made the offer then, saw no others.
Saw warren once, took him straight home
Before that, went to see Wally 3 times, then made the offer, saw about 8 others, all of who were lame/ill/obese.
Before that, Went to see candy twice, then made the offer, before that saw one other, who was not as described, and another who I liked but confo. was shot, so dad woulnd't get.
Before that, went to see Sid once, got given her then, collected same day. Saw no others.
Went to see walsely twice then offered, again no others veiwed.
I could go on, but we are back to 1998 now. It looks like we get the first one we see, but in general we have known the ponies before we went to see them.
When I was looking for Fudge I rang and emailed probably a 100 people and only went to see 7 that seemed perfect, only two were suitable and exactly as described, one I found too strong and the other was Fudge who was very green having only ever hacked out, but there was something about him so I brought him then and there
I was always on time (apart from once when I rang and told them I was lost
), asked loads of questions before arranging to view a horse and told the owners before I left if I didn't think their horse was suitable. Some of the people I spoke to on teh telephone probably thought I was a timewaster as I asked loads of questions and then didn't arrange to come and see their horse as I thought it was unsuitable.
no, when buying millie i must have seen over 10 horses, 9 of those were completely undescribed, and they were not cheap as chips horses by any means, so i walked away, some after riding them.
Digby was the 3rd i went to see, the 2 before that were both nice but one had something about his temperament i didnt like even though i was told he was bomb proof, and the other wouldnt drop the price etc even though i had stated downt he phone i wouldnt pay that much for him and she agreed and said she wanted me to come and see him.
I always makes ure i ask as many questions as possible before i go and view and know that they *could* be suitable for me before i go.
Not me - I've never actually gone out to buy a horse. Our yard manager mentioned one day that she was selling her horse, I tried him over a couple of weeks and bought him.
No definitely never.
I ask enough questions on the phone prior to a viewing and if the horse isn't what we are looking for, tell them immediately why and thank them.
I have met an awful lot of timewasters, the biggest fault are those looking for a £20k horse when it's advertised at £5k!
I've also met a lot of timewaster sellers, such as the one who advertised a 14. 2 hh sane safe pony which may have suited my elderly next door neighbour as a quiet hack. When we arrived it took two of them to stop it rushing out of the door and flattening everyone in it's path, then it napped leaving the yard, leapt in the air at a car, and had wafer thin worn shoes though they said it had not done any road work..
I get angry with those sorts who imagine all buyers are thick, but even more so with the possible buyers who immediately assume we are out to fleece them..
As anyone off H and H will tell you who has bought an animal of ours , we don't tell lies when selling and if anything are too damned honest!..
I do hope you haven't had a visit from some "dreamers" as my boss used to call them...lots of ambitions but no actual cash to pay for a horse..I had one last week who rang up, asked me numerous questions about a mare for twenty mins then said "Actually I'm not really looking for a horse to buy, but one to loan..."
I was pretty firm when I told her to stop wasting my time I'm afraid..
I think i was once, I went to see a horse at a dealers yard, really liked it so went back again at the weekend. The dealer's rider had qualified him for Blue chip and i wanted to see him at a show so we paid his entries so she didn't sell him at blue chip. I went to see him there, still liked him, he was very sensible etc. When they got hom i had him 5 stage vetted. In the riding part he threw in some massive leaps and bucks, the girl fell off and he charged round bucking and bronking. Needless to say, I walked away at that point!!
I have seen tonnes of horses over the years as I think I trust my instincts now and won't be badgered into buying something by the vendor. I have seen some maniacs - one I didn't even dare jump as it's neck was so in my face I said thanks but no thanks. Another 'showjumper' was ridden by the guy first (it was a possible buy for my sister), I saw it rear right up with him (it didn't like spurs apparently - or whips, or you using your legs or indeed holding the reins a bit too tight or loose or anything really!) I rode it and it had a fabulous jump, on it's own terms, then it'd had enough and just bronked and i went flying! I def didn't waste that vendors time!
When I saw my horse I knew straight away he was 'The One' and duly purchased him. I do admit my mum and myself did go see a horse we saw advertised for a couple of weeks. We had no intention of buying him at all were just intrigued as he was advertised as a blue roan andalusian cross. Anyway, we went to have a nose (with excuses not for buying all prepared - yes I know, very naughty!) however, turns out he was v nice (only 4), we went back to see him a few days later with my sister as he was for her and 3 years later we still have him and he's fab!!!
Have to say vendor made it a nightmare to buy him, her reasons for not answering the phone, not turning up for the vet were all v strange - I felt we just had to rescue the poor horse!!!
Not me, but the best story I've heard is from the breeders of my mare, who said someone came to try her, she was advertised as a 16.1 showjumper which is exactly what she is, and they said she was too tall for them and they hadnt expected her to be so big!
I'd like to think not. I never go and see a horse unless I am serious about it. I have a long discussion on the phone with the seller beforehand and tell them what i want and find out if the horse is right for me, and my home is right for the horse.
I have been to view horses that were complete nightmares and told the owner I'd call them...
When I go to view a horse I take a cash deposit. If I like it enough I will pop a deposit down there and then.
I've had my time wasted enough times and wouldnt put anyone else through that.
Nope, I have a long discussion with seller first, a list of questions. If the horse fits the bill I will go see it. Bearing in mind I dont go to see buckers, rearers or anything that bolts and will grill the seller quite happily on these matters. When I get there if the horse looks like what I want I will get on once seen it ridden and if I dont like it within a short period will get off and leave it.
I dont think beingl ess thorough would be any advantage to anyone.
Have had people say they are coming, not turn up or those who come say they like the horse and then never ring back!
Or sellers whose horses aren't as described-hate that.
No im not a timewaster went to see Lady, after trying her i had 10 minutes in the car to think about it and went back out and said yes id like her, left a deposit and picked her up 5 days later.
As for Billy went to the local horse sales with my sister for her to buy her horse a new rug and i came home with a section A pony (Billy)
I've only bought 1 horse, I think I saw about 8 or 9 before I found George, but I rang up first and asked lots of q's before deciding to go and look.
H_H you will laugh at me too, at 16.3 George was much bigger than I wanted and when I got there knowing his size I said 'gosh he's big'!! I nearly didn't get on him as I thought he was just too big - so I very nearly wasted someones time. But I did get on, the owner took some pics there and then and i could see I wasn't too small, and 5 mins later I had fallen in love!
Would never go to view a horse without intending to buy asuming it was as described and we "clicked" but sure a lot of poor sellers thought I was a timewaster on phone last time I was buying,asked 101 questions(repeting some to try and catch out anyone telling lies) and most of the people I called diddnt have a horse I wanted to view.