Arrests - house fire that killed 6 children

The weird thing is, after I watched the parents on the TV doing the police appeal, I commented to my office mate the next day that there was no way the mother at least, was genuinely crying. If I cry my face goes instantly bright red and puffy, my eyes almost disappear, I can't stop blowing my nose because it all gets totally congested (so a tissue lasts about 10 seconds) and frankly I look a sight and continue to do so for at least half an hour after I've stopped crying. The mother was dabbing her eyes and kept her face well hidden most of the time. I don't believe father was crying either. So todays news came as absolutely no surprise at all to be honest. As with someone earlier, I now suspect this was an attempt to get rehoused which went tragically wrong.
 
I will reserve judgement until all the facts come out. However I will say though that some people can be very good at acting. We have seen it in the past and no doubt will continue to do so.
 
The news is no surprise, but I think they are people who did something terrible to achieve something they thought they deserved. The consequences were the deaths of their children.

I don't believe their grief was an act. They looked simply devastated.
 
fatpiggy said:
The weird thing is, after I watched the parents on the TV doing the police appeal, I commented to my office mate the next day that there was no way the mother at least, was genuinely crying. If I cry my face goes instantly bright red and puffy, my eyes almost disappear, I can't stop blowing my nose because it all gets totally congested (so a tissue lasts about 10 seconds) and frankly I look a sight and continue to do so for at least half an hour after I've stopped crying. The mother was dabbing her eyes and kept her face well hidden most of the time. I don't believe father was crying either. So todays news came as absolutely no surprise at all to be honest. As with someone earlier, I now suspect this was an attempt to get rehoused which went tragically wrong.
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I have no idea about motives but I second what you said about something didn't look quite right.
 
I remember these people (well him anyway) being slated because they were on benefits, had numerous children and seemed to think the likes of me should work all hours to support the likes of them.

Then that dreadful fire happened and they were the best parents in the world. Did everything they could for their children etc etc

And now? Well I guess the witch hunt is back on. :rolleyes:
 
amymay said:
The news is no surprise, but I think they are people who did something terrible to achieve something they thought they deserved. The consequences were the deaths of their children.

I don't believe their grief was an act. They looked simply devastated.
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I wondered at the time how the parents, who were apparently sitting downstairs, allegedly didn`t smell burning until it was too late to save the children. I found that very hard to understand but suspect the truth may lie somewhere in Amymay`s post. Very, very tragic whatever the circumstances.
 
fatpiggy said:
The weird thing is, after I watched the parents on the TV doing the police appeal, I commented to my office mate the next day that there was no way the mother at least, was genuinely crying.
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IIRC it's not unknown for the police to get possible suspects to do tv interviews; which are then analysed by body language experts.
 
I do think there is a huge difference between Shannon Matthews mum and this couple. she planned exactly what happened to her daughter. I have to agree with AmyMay here, if the fire was started outside they may have thought they could then put it out. When it took hold he did apparently try all he could to get in. As said, I think this may have been a dreadful way of trying to get moved and now they have lost their children. For the life of me I can't see how someone could "act" upset if they had just lost all 6 of their children. She was probably just so cried out she had no more tears in her. To have had this go so tragically wrong, i doubt she can really live with herself.
 
I referred to Shannon Matthews mum in relation to the comment about the police setting up public statements in order to study body language.
 
stevieg said:
I referred to Shannon Matthews mum in relation to the comment about the police setting up public statements in order to study body language.
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oh I see, sorry. Yes - she wasn't the brightest star in the sky at the best of times. There was no way she was ever going to hold her story together. I think as with her, the police must have had their suspicions. It is just so tragic, none of the children deserved any of this. They have to live with this the rest of their lives, I don't think any punishment they could be given could be any worse than that.
 
I can think of a few cases where someone has been arrested, slated in the press & then turned out not to have even been involved - Bristol, Ipswich anyone, so I would rather reserve any comments on them for now.
 
If it's true what people are suspecting & the family laid a fire hoping it would get them re-homed & they lost their children then surely they need our pity not a witch hunt. What ever the reasons it is a terrible tragedy & one they will surely never recover from.
 
Honeylight said:
If it's true what people are suspecting & the family laid a fire hoping it would get them re-homed & they lost their children then surely they need our pity not a witch hunt. What ever the reasons it is a terrible tragedy & one they will surely never recover from.
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I ve heard it all now!
Someone threw petrol down and set fire to it in a house where there were 6 children.
I can think of a few things they need but pity isn t one of them.
 
Don't get me wrong I am not condoning their actions & I mean pity in the broadest sense. To pity their ignorance, stupidity & the terrible price they paid.
 
Not sure if this has anyone thinking but when the story first broke the Mrs and I wondered why the adults had 'run out' when the kids were still upstairs

I woulkd have thought that, if possible, the adults would have run up the stairs - yes?
 
rhino said:
IIRC it's not unknown for the police to get possible suspects to do tv interviews; which are then analysed by body language experts.
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I have to admit that when i saw they were doing the 'press conference' i actually thought about a programme i saw a while ago which showed a number of cases where those who'd taken part in interviews were already suspects & were later charged & found guilty ... may the poor children who have lost their lives Rest in Eternal Peace x
 
ROG said:
Not sure if this has anyone thinking but when the story first broke the Mrs and I wondered why the adults had 'run out' when the kids were still upstairs

I woulkd have thought that, if possible, the adults would have run up the stairs - yes?
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YES ... i'm sure in the first couple of days there was confusion as to whether the father was actually in the house at the time but due to how upset the parents were & the fact they were at the eldest childs bedside they hadn't been interviewed by the Police before they did the TV bit.

Up to now they have had each other for support, tonight they will be all alone with people who will truly despise them !!!!
 
Same as ROG I wondered why they'd run out before trying and failing to get back in to rescue the kids. If guilty I don't suppose there is any punishment worse than they've already got but at least they won't be able to dine out on public sympathy any longer. Guess they won't enjoy the downsized accommodation either.
 
ROG said:
Not sure if this has anyone thinking but when the story first broke the Mrs and I wondered why the adults had 'run out' when the kids were still upstairs

I woulkd have thought that, if possible, the adults would have run up the stairs - yes?
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apparently they were sleeping in the caravan in the front garden, so was said this week anyway
 
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