Try to see something of the world, Tom, before it's too late. With a bit of experience under your belt perhaps you'll be less fanatical on silly boards like this. There's far more to life than pigs and abusing animals for pleasure.
You just don't get it. It's possible to rush around to lots of places but not really see anything because you're so blinkered. You appear to view the world with a great deal of anger. If you at least tried to open yourself up to new experiences and opinions perhaps you'd be less uptight.
I don't know what I'll be doing on Tuesday - depends on the weather I suppose.
Pros have told me there are two problems with severe frost. One - it's dangerous for horses and riders. Two, shards of ice can injure the hounds, perhaps ending their career (and we know what that means).
You're getting confused between acclimatisation and evolution. Huskies have evolved to cope with icy conditions, irrespective of where they are born. My main concern about racing them in the UK would be that they'd get too hot.
We are so built up around here that the huntsman has to able to keep with the hounds. We have been once, that I can think of, in severe frost and it was hair raising! We only went then as we have a huge group of visitors out.
Even the bassetts cancel in frost, our soil is clay with lots of flints, so perhaps thats why it is worse than yours?
Because Carreg has no experience with hunting, don't make me laugh!!
Who are you to say those on Liams who'm I disagree with are more experienced? Just because you agree with what they say does not make them any more or less experienced than myself. Stop being so narrowminded.
I suppose our local huntmen no nothing aswell, despite one hunting one pack of hounds for over 15 seasons.
Perhaps our Welsh hounds are somewhat tougher than those that Liams readers hunt with, saying that though half our pack are English lines.
Despite what I've read there I have seen hounds hunt in frost, successfully, I've not seen any reaction from them either. The only downside is the huntsman is f****d at the end of the day. Perhaps take a look at the Carms pics of Lee P hunting hounds on foot in the frost...
As for the huskies, I've not known Pembrey be warm in Feb!
Hmm I didn't think of that, our hounds can run on in places for miles and not see a road. It would be quite irresponsible to be on foot in those circumstances, I guess your hunt wouldn't ever hunt without a whip either, whereas ours can and have done.
Blimey your huntsman is a short timer. Our huntsman is just about to start his 27th season with the Fitzwilliam...
Many considerations have to be taken into account when judging whether to go out, SM you seem to be in a fortunate position of being in quite an unspoilt hunt country. This doesn't always follow for the rest of us. Therefore if visibility is bad we will cancel - it isn't safe to approach hazards when you can barely see your horse's ears, nor is it safe when sound is so badly distorted.
What would be the point of us heading out in the frost if the only result is going to be lame horses and sore hounds? It isn't anything to do with toughness of the hounds, but fairness and keeping their welfare at the heart of things. Not to mention the fact that if frost is coming out of the ground then scenting conditions pre-ban would have been useless!
The same with snow, there would have been snow and with the snow balling up in the neds feets there would be danger for both follower and horse. High winds have caused a meet to be altered once, gales affected us that it was deemed unsafe to hunt on horseback and we went on foot instead.
Incidentally there are whisperings that we might go out on feet only at the start of this season, because the ground is like rock and will take weeks of rain to soften.
As a final point remember that many of Liam's forum users will be beaglers and basset harehounds followers which is bound to affect the country they use and therefore the effect the conditions have on them.
Our huntsman is in his first season, and I was wrong by saying 15, its 10 seasons for the Tivyside.
I think you were wrong with 27 aswell.
Claire although I appreciate what you have written out it doesn't go to the point of the argument.
Lame horses - I've already said three times we would be on foot. But I realise that in your country its probably imperative that hunt staff are mounted.
"It isn't anything to do with toughness of the hounds, but fairness and keeping their welfare at the heart of things."
So you would say that because huntsmen in our area still hunt in frosty conditions they don't have their hounds welfare at heart? It would be a shame if those were your thoughts. If roadwork is done correctly hounds feet should be tough soled, what is the difference from ice to treading on thick brambles or black thorn in a covert?
I appreciate the sights/sounds argument, especially in an area which is built up. Hunting in its current form also has to be wary of bad press.