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Hi, have a lovely part bred mare I bred whos nearly six, who has tyd up after a virus (the sort that youngsters get) she had been on no feed so assumed that she had been still recovering and had got cold after a hack. 3 months later she is fit and well and had gradually increased feed to work ratio as shes in medium work and doing well. However on Saturday after the classic 'day off' she was lunged and afterwards tyed up again. She had still been on her normal feed ration which is topline cond cubes as she is turned out during the day and generally is a lazy sort in work and needs the extra. I realise now that this was prob not a good idea, and will have to cut out any feed on days off, and cut it back anyway. I had also heard that young mares are more prone?? has anyone out there any further suggestions to management of this please, I need some help!!!
 
Cutting back on feed for that one day wont really do much.. i cant see how as its not going to be in her system that day.

Why give her a day off?

Also tieing up is one of those things that usually rears its ugly head on and off for the rest of the horses life.

There must be some detox/purity suplements out and about that you can try.. Id suggest a chat with your vet about it though!

Lou x
 
The diet of azoturia prone horses should be fibre based with oil if more energy is required. Any form of cereals should be excluded from the diet. Most cubes contain cereals, and topline cubes certainly do. There is a greater requirement for vitamin e and selenium for muscle function but you need to feed a decent amount, many supplements havnt got enough in them. Selenavite E is one that has, not sure of any others. Alfalfa is also a good feed as it is high in calcium, again for muscle function. D and H ERS pellets are suitable for azoturia horses, as they are specifically designed for them.
Yes, young mares are more prone. as are stressy types. As are certain breeds, such as quarter horses. There are actually many types of azoturia/similar muscle conditions.
Another key to minimising risk is make sure the horse is fit enough for the work you are asking it to do. Warm up carefully and cool down slowly and adequately. Once recovered the horse should get as much turn out as possible.
 
Thanks for that, will def include the selenium &vit E, and will try the D&H ERS pellets, does anyone know which is the best oil to use for max energy or are they mostly the same, have in the past used veg oil from supermarket.
 
Ditto teddyt. Abandon traditional feeding rules! Feed nothing but grass and hay and vet recommended supplements if possible. If you need to feed for energy and condition, feed intolerance mix and oil.

I lost a horse that just kept tying up because I thought it needed feeding. It is totally diet related and you shouldn't feed cereals at all.
 
Its so strange though as I really didnt recognise what was happening initially, just didnt think she was the typical type to tye up, and the fact that the first time she was on just hay makes it even more odd. These things are sent to try us, so sad about your horse,
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will be very careful and thanks for the advice xx
 
Every horse is individual and one thing i have learnt is that not every horse follows the textbook. I know of a mare that had a few attacks and she lived out with a fibre diet. The vet wasnt convinced and faffed about until a blood test was demanded by the owner! The bloods showed raised muscle enzymes. Admitedly the symptoms were like colic but they only lasted for about 3 minutes, so all very odd. She only ever had about 5 attacks in her life and the cause was never found
 
I have a TB mare that tied up a few years ago, she went on (recommended by the Vet) Selenivite E and non cereal feed. Hannah Collings at Winergy was really helpful for me, I'm one of the case studies on the website.
 
Ditto what the others have said about feed, cerals etc. We use Linseed on our mares that suffer, the big sacks from Simple sytems are the most cost effective and unlike the old days no boiling required!!
 
Nobody has mentioned WATER! I have racing thoroughbreds that need High protien, high energy feed. I find water the most important factor along with warm up cool down, turn out etc. Try to encourage her to drink more, add fruit juice if need be.
 
Thanks everybody so much, took her out today first time in a week and was fine, so have cut out everything bar mollichaff and selenium, vitE, and lindseed oil, and have ordered some ERS pellets(quite expensive as only 15kg bag), so will try her on that. Dont want her condition to drop off as she is shown in the summer, but also want a horse to show!!!! Will try all suggestions and have asked vet to add some more but doubt he'll be able to! thanks again will keep you posted Sharix
 
I agree with Janeglass. Get them drinking more water. There's a fabulous new product now available in Britain called Horse Quencher that gets horses drinking immediately (www.horsequencher.co.uk). Really useful item to have to hand, for problems (azatoria, colic) as well as travelling and competing.
 
personally as she has a history of tying up while just on hay I would add veg oil each feed this will help reduce the risks of tying up and give the energy and calories she needs. Any oil will do I use asda's own veg oil and yes add the vit E and selenium. Remember the electrolites when she has sweated too. Take a look at www.ruralheritage.com fabby site and Dr Beth is lovely and will usually answer emails herself
 
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