back breeching bar on IW trailers is this common?

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Bugger had a tantrum in new trailer:o

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How many of these do you go through? Is this a common thing?
 
Jeez! I have a full width one and my lad has had a little tantrum but it only bent slightly.

Am assuming it was a proper tantrum!!!?? Was the ramp up as it's obviously had some force? Is it full width?
 
Crikey...mine had a tantrum in my 2008 505 and just managed to bend the metal pins a bit...he was kicking enough to bounce the entire 4x4 and trailer. How mental did your horse go??
 
Half length one. Reared, got his bum under, then came down and backed out, ramp wasn't up,then he went running around the Yard, laughing, with bar hanging off his plaits! He's a weighty half shire.
 
I have one slightly bent but your horse doesn't do things by halves I see. They are hollow tubes to keep the weight of the trailer low but I wouldn't expect them to survive a direct kick or being sat on
 
I think they should be strong enough to support a horses weight otherwise they are leaning right back into the ramp.

OP your horse got under it and pushed up? Hope he's ok now.
 
Here's the big Rhino (lol) bugger

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He's right as rain, and actually when we got to the show (our first) he won best coloured and inhand reserve Champion, so he did redeem himself slightly, even though he's now cost me another 50 quid for a replacement bar!


Just a bit worried about it happening again when the ramp is up:confused:
 
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Mine did this to a front bar by dropping to his knees and coming up whilst under it :eek:, he also wrecked the centre pole holding the partitions :(.

He had the physio out to check him over and shockingly, her hadn't done himself any damage.
 
Probably better to bend than break and leave sharp edges, but - OUCH!

Keep the end fittings as Ifor Williams will supply the tube separately, then all you need is a small drill and a couple of self tapping screws. Pity you spent the £50 as I'm sure the tube doesn't cost that much.
 
The end fittings sheared off on both sides too, which is how he finally backed off ramp!!!:eek:

Must say I am worried about if he does it when the ramp is up!

From start to finish the whole process took him about five seconds
 
This happened to the rear bar on my new IW trailer. Was loading, put up bars, horse slipped only a little, the bar bent and the fittings broke off and the back panel fell over as the middle fixings bent. IW replaced the bar and panel. Since it was fixed so far has been ok. Was not very happy as the horse had not had a trantrum and it was only a minor slip, was surprised at the damage and so glad it happened in the yard and not while moving.
 
I had no idea these were hollow as they feel quite heavy. I thought the metal went all the way through.

My old trailer just had a chain which I think a horse could easily break or back under, and some just have a webbing strap.
 
We learnt the hard way, fasten the breach bar and get the ramp up....quick.

Our pony learnt, in an old trailer that didn't have anything to secure the rear breach bar, that he cud just bend down, get under it and lift it up and back out of the trailer, breaking the baler twine that he was tied up to and run around loose!!
 
I worry that if he could shear the ends off the breech bar, he could also shear the ends off the ramp catches when the ramp is up and closed .... the breech bar did not stop him backing out ....
 
If he is a big lad, would he feel safer and less constricted if he had the whole width of the trailer? Assuming you are not trying to take two horses of course.

I have just bought a full length breeching bar and mine load much better, and seem happier. Of course it means I can't take anyone with me, but if he has learnt to do that once, he will try again. Not sure if the full width ones are stronger, but mine weighs a ton compared to the half width ones.
 
Yes, that's a thought, but I think structurally, by the law of physics, the shorter one should be harder to bend than the longer ...:confused:

Normally he's an absolute angel and travels beautifully, either on own or with another big cob - this appeared to be a one off, but obviously I am a little more apprehensive about travelling now.

The breeching bar is meant as a protection for the handler in case the horse backs out and squashes the handler under the ramp .... at least, that's my understanding ...... I worry now, given what he has proven he can do to the bar, that he could break through the bar and then also, the back ramp when it's up, by shearing off the catches that hold ramp closed. If you get what I mean....
 
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