Bad behaviour with the farrier

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The horse I ride has started to be dreadfully with the farrier she rears and spins.
She has never done this before always been a fidget but never that bad. I'm not there when the farrier does this.
This type of behaviour was typical of her when I first started riding her a few years ago but I thought it would stop.
Her owners view is a smack on the nose cures all and she is to big and boshy to take notice of it and just gets worse, she argues with everything that she can and will throw a tanturm if it gets a reaction.

Any one have any ideas on how to stop it I plan to be there next time but am also unsure as how to tell the owner not to hit her and how to convince her the farrier will not kill her but help stop her feet from hurting when we go hacking
 
Lucky you, I'm always trying to misbehave with my farrier but he's having none of it :( Loves his OH, so he says :rolleyes:
 
Hello, hello, hello:

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This thread is at serious risk of being hijacked!

Has my horse misbehaved with the farrier... yes


Have I?
































Ofcourse... par for the course isn't it! who else?:D
 
I said don't look, you clowns!

Sorry Holmside Prospect, I apologise.

*wrestles black_horse, JFTD and queenbee back into their box*

Sorry to hear you're having trouble. Maybe try a change of farrier? Worked with my stupid Knobber horse who went from being an angel to shoe to being a complete tit just because he decided he didn't like the farrier. Swapped and he was fine again.
 
Stop it you lot! This is a new member who is going to think we are all t*ssers if you can on.

OP- I would persist and try sedaline if it continues. Can you speak to the farrier? Are her feet in a bad way? Has he hurt her? If so then she is probably remembering, if not then she may just be being a bit naughty and testing her boundaries.

Welcome to the forum, take no notice of the rabble nobody else does!
FDC
 
:D I'm innocent i swear!!!!









Why what have you heard?

Back to the thread, is the farrier the same as before? Maybe she has had a bad experience from him and is weary, or trying it on? A controller headcollar (I have twitches!) or some calmer/sedation would make the experience more pleasant....






Back to the farriers....



Wish mine actually looked more like the men from the carte noire ads!
 
We had a 17hh Clydie mare who had to hae sedalin just to have her feet trimmed :eek: We never did know why and it took us a long time for her to be comfortable with us doing anything with her feet. She did slowly get better with the farrier and we were able to use less sedalin as time went on
 
Oh dear what a welcome for a newbie :rolleyes:
I would advise you to be there when the farrier comes, just to see for yourself how she reacts, then take it from there.

Now the rest of you BEHAVE!
 
my thoughts are the previous owners handling have spoiled the mare and she needs to go back to basics, teaching the horse proper handling etc.

Teach her personal space etc, to back on on command and approach when asked. You need to instil manner into her in a calm and approachable manner in which she can understand. If she is naughty, dont tap her on the nose, instead, push her away from you, if she turns her quarters as you are doing this, continue till she remains going backwards straight then stop her, make her stand for a minute, and invite her forwards.

Repetition and fairness is you key. Violence solves nothing/
 
Fany Du Champ
Stop it you lot! This is a new member who is going to think we are all t*ssers if you can on.


I'm a newbie too but personally I think they are all hilarious!! Especially after their antics on tje thread about men's clothing!

*Gives huge round of applause*
 
showjumpingfilly said:
I'm a newbie too but personally I think they are all hilarious!! Especially after their antics on tje thread about men's clothing!

*Gives huge round of applause*
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*takes a bow*

Please, feel free to join in with the idiocy :)

OP - I think it is going to be really difficult to 'sort' as it's not your horse and you aren't there when the farrier is. I'm not sure there is really much you can do :(
 
I have a horse that behaves like this with vets and equine dentists (she hates the smell of vets and is touchy around the head and face with strangers), the only thing that works is a twitch or sedation for her. Fortunately she is mostly ok with farrier. Her issue is that she is a worry wort, if the horse is worried then sedation is the best for the time being and just work on getting her used to farrier over time. (Lots of role playing with a pretend farrier and tools, approacha and retreat etc).

Re the other matter of farriers - my son is an apprentice farrier, his "master" has told him lots of women/girls will hit on him. He is not allowed to ask women/girls out on the job, he is allowed to say.. "I'll be at the.... place tonight at 6pm" and if they happen to turn up, that is ok.
 
jeeve said:
Re the other matter of farriers - my son is an apprentice farrier, his "master" has told him lots of women/girls will hit on him. He is not allowed to ask women/girls out on the job, he is allowed to say.. "I'll be at the.... place tonight at 6pm" and if they happen to turn up, that is ok.
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My farrier was telling me about a colleague of his, who is accompanied to 90% of his call outs by his wife... Obviously a lot of trust in that relationship!
 
I once behaved badly with a farrier. No regrets lol.

When I bought my mare she had been forcibly trimmed by her ex owner on the day of sale. This included five big men and a length of blue pipe. She was petrified of my farrier but he spent ages fussing her every time he was on the yard and now she can be shod loose in the field! Patience, time and a good farrier!
 
Holmside if you can be there another time that might be better for the mare. One of my horses was not good with the farrier to begin with. We soon worked out it was the noise and smell of the smoke which upset him. So the farrier let's the shoe cool down an awful lot before checking it against the hoof.

We used carrots and apples to distract the horse and now he is much better, best ever actually when done on Tuesday. The owner hitting her nose is merely reinforcing that the farrier is not a good person to have around. That is not the answer and is why I hope you can be there for the horse another time instead if possible.
 
I think you are in a very difficult situation here op. Having very different views to the owner is always going to cause confusion for the horse and upset for you. I don't believe hitting a horse in these circumstances has any real value. I prefer to try and work out why the horse is objecting so strongly and change things so the horse can accept it and cooperate. I hesitate to say like here.
My first thought is always pain if an 'objection' behaviour re emerges or is new.
One persons experience.
http://www.healthyhoof.com/articles/Gavilanandthefarrier.htm
 
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