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Nicnac

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Just seen a statement announcing placings have been updated. Am assuming somebody ineligible was placed? Anyone know what happened?
 
Ahh…

If it’s the incident that has been buzzing about then the SJ judges failed to record a pole down and the round was recorded as being clear. The combination went on to get a place, but wouldn’t have been placed if the SJ faults had been properly recorded.

ETA yes the combination with the SJ pole have now been bumped well down the order and others have gone up by a place.
 
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Was going to PM you Nicnac but I think you might have this turned off, just to give a bit of context, but the basic thing was that there was a scoring error not picked up on the day that was corrected after the event.
 
Thanks for clarification.

Glad another ineligible didn't slip through but pole at champs is a rather big mistake. Gutted for those who didn't get their moment of glory if the person who had the pole was in a position for prize giving in front of the house.

@SaddlePsych'D how on earth did I do that?.Think.Ive fixed it.
 
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Nicnac said:
Thanks for clarification.

Glad another ineligible didn't slip through but pole at champs is a rather big mistake. Gutted for those who didn't get their moment of glory if the person who had the pole was in a position for prize giving in front of the house.

@SaddlePsych'D how on earth did I do that?.
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It will be under the privacy settings in your account, there's options about who can start a conversation with you.

ETA you are welcome to PM me. I think I have mine set so any forum member can start a conversation with me.
 
TLDR Someone placed in the top 10 when they shouldn't have because they had a pole down. They knew they'd had a pole down as they edited it out of their vlog. On that vlog a lot of people commented asking why they were pretending they got a clear when they saw them in person get 4 faults and had reported them to BE. That person then deleted the vlog and uploaded a second vlog. Instead of saying 'I tried to pretend I went clear to stay in the top 10 but was subsequently rightly called out and I apologise' they tried to pretend they had self reported and blamed everyone else instead of being honest. No explanation of why they edited their 4 faults out the vlog. They then got more criticism on that video for continuing to lie and deleted that too. Baffling behaviour from someone easily identifiable on this forum.
 
IrishMilo said:
TLDR Someone placed in the top 10 when they shouldn't have because they had a pole down. They knew they'd had a pole down as they edited it out of their vlog. On that vlog a lot of people commented asking why they were pretending they got a clear when they saw them in person get 4 faults and had reported them to BE. That person then deleted the vlog and uploaded a second vlog. Instead of saying 'I tried to pretend I went clear to stay in the top 10 but was subsequently rightly called out and I apologise' they tried to pretend they had self reported and blamed everyone else instead of being honest. No explanation of why they edited their 4 faults out the vlog. They then got more criticism on that video for continuing to lie and deleted that too. Baffling behaviour from someone easily identifiable on this forum.
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If you're going to say anything on the matter then do please get your facts straight.

The pole had already been reported to the SJ judges on the day. It had also been self-reported by the rider to BE before the first vlog went out (I've seen the original email and acknowledgement from the CEO of BE.) It was a stupid error to not just be up front about it on the first vlog.

The second vlog that went out explained the situation, there was no 'pretending' or 'trying to blame everyone else'.

The second vlog was left up for several days, there was no 'continuing to lie', but it has now been deleted because a) the situation was resolved and b) the continued vitriol by people like you has had a significant damaging effect on that rider.

BTW I was not that rider, nor was I there on the day or in any way involved in what happened, but I do have a significant interest in this matter!
 
Why did you collect the rosette and prize money when you knew that you had a pole down and should not have been placed in the top ten?

That robbed 11th place/should have been 10th of collecting a rosette at Badminton and 8th -10th from collecting their correct prize money.

It was also bad taste to complain about how poor the prize money that you had "won" was while knowing that it wasn't yours to have.

You have edited your reply four times now from your original response.
 
LEC said:
Mine was putting out the vlog far too early when I knew stuff was going on.
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Oh give over, you should work in politics! You didn't put the vlog out too early, you could have posted the vlog but just not have tried to deliberately get away with it. Any other person would have said 'here's the full round and I got 4 faults but it's been reported'.
 
NR88 said:
Why did you collect the rosette and prize money when you knew that you had a pole down and should not have been placed in the top ten?
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I didn't collect anything....
 
IrishMilo said:
Oh give over, you should work in politics! You didn't put the vlog out too early, you could have posted the vlog but just not have tried to deliberately get away with it. Any other person would have said 'here's the full round and I got 4 faults but it's been reported'.
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I doubt that would have changed the vitriol either.
 
As if no one has ever made a mistake. Someone won a BD championships they weren't eligible for from changing their name and having a second BD account. They seem to have had less flack then LEC. I think if they weren't a successful youtuber then no one would have got as excited by the error. Yeah sh*t happens and it was corrected. No one missed out on a win or prize giving (or died).
 
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You posted publicly on your influencern instagram page in reply to a comment congratulating your placing that the prize money was poor. That you had only "won" £90 for eighth place and had spent £80 of it at equireel getting footage of the day.
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The prize money doesn't go to people until well after the event. You don't collect it. So no, I didn't get any prize money. I got the same as anyone else who completed.
 
I’ve been silently following this palaver as a watcher of your vlogs and an eventer (lol, I use that word loosely!) myself and do appreciate the whole thing was a bit of a disaster.

I feel sorry for you in terms of having this cloud hanging over you now, and that it will have tarnished what you’ve built in terms of your social media presence- I’m sure you’re aware that you and TheMule had been discussed as being lovely, down to Earth vloggers that no one had a bad word about. I don’t think this has made you a bad person. I think you got very caught up in the moment and didn’t quite think straight. I’m sorry that you’ve probably had a pretty crap few weeks and that this will have tarnished your Badminton experience.

But I must say, and ignore me if you must- I think your second vlog wasn’t the way to go about rectifying it. You would have saved SO much face by just putting your hands up and admitting what really happened. You might have been able to recover from this much quicker if you’d just said “I got caught up in the excitement of Badminton, and once I’d self declared my faults and the results still hadn’t been changed, I figured I might as well run with it”. Let’s be honest- you’re not the only person this has happened to, you won’t be the last, and I can guarantee most people would have tried to get away with it.

Just my two pennies worth. Hope you get back out eventing again on your lovely horse soon.

Editing to add- the reason I don’t think you’re being 100% truthful is the very clever way you two were discussing the showjumping round in your second vlog. The convo obviously took place whilst you were still “trying to get away with it”, and you never once mentioned having a fence down (whilst being careful to also not say you went clear). There was then a very abrupt edit when it sounded like you were going to mention going clear.
 
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Its absolutely true that everyone makes many stupid mistakes in their lives, but I find it concerning that in this instance you regard the stupid mistake as the timing of the release of the vlog rather than the dishonesty.

I think you could have released the vlog whenever you wanted, if in that vlog you included all three phases in their entirity, and a quick explanation that although your sj round was recorded as a clear, as the video shows you did in fact have a pole, and you've made BE aware and they are looking into it and ammending the results.

If you had posted something along those lines, I'm positive you would have got nothing but support and sympathy, because after all, the original mistake was theirs, not yours, its how its been handled that has caused bad feeling, which is a shame.
 
daffy44 said:
Its absolutely true that everyone makes many stupid mistakes in their lives, but I find it concerning that in this instance you regard the stupid mistake as the timing of the release of the vlog rather than the dishonesty.

I think you could have released the vlog whenever you wanted, if in that vlog you included all three phases in their entirity, and a quick explanation that although your sj round was recorded as a clear, as the video shows you did in fact have a pole, and you've made BE aware and they are looking into it and ammending the results.

If you had posted something along those lines, I'm positive you would have got nothing but support and sympathy, because after all, the original mistake was theirs, not yours, its how its been handled that has caused bad feeling, which is a shame.
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Exactly this and does nothing for the stereotype of influencers editing the truth to push their platforms. I never know why people can’t be honest, as the truth will always out in these days of social media.

The top ten placing was posted on here and there was no correction or hint that it might not be totally correct or in question, just how long the vlog was taking to put together, so to now say it was the timing of the vlog that was the issue is showing a complete lack of acknowledgment of the dishonesty shown.

Shocking it’s taken so long for BE to correct the error, the poor people who didn’t get their moment on the day of their actual achievement.
 
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