Baileys Outshine - opinions

Had Dizzy on that, and Blue Chip Pro and Alpha A Oil and sugarbeet and it made not one jot of difference to her :(. So saying, there must be others who love it.

She's doing grand now on Saracens Releave and their Equijewel :D
 
Really good for dark coloured horses - made my friend's horses gleam!

She's gone back to linseed and black sunflower seed oil now as expensive for what it does.
 
Have known a few horses on it and all looked fab, really shiny healthy coats (a dark bay, bright bay, chestnut and coloured they all shone!) and it didn't fizz them up and one of them was a very hot fizzy mare.
 
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There are quite a few on my yard who feed it and really rate it. It is the supplement of choice down there! Most of them feed it alongside cereals/ mixes and a bit of hifi chaff. Personally I would just add oil but I am a cheapskate sceptic. ;)
 
As far as I know, the main benefit is that its dry. I looked into it many years ago when my EPSM horse all of a sudden, refused to eat oil. Trouble was you had to feed quite a bit and the smell was a bit chemical, so he wouldnt eat that either!
 
I think it's fab personally. I use it because I got a WB who was a notoriously poor doer and was really skinny when I got him and outshine was recommended by HHOers so thought it might be worth a try. It's brill and really helped him put on condition. I usually get through about 3 bags over winter and that helps him keep the weight through the cold.

I feed it with baileys #4, speedibeet and alfa a oil.
 
Well outshine is a high oil balancer, so would make the most difference to horses not on a balanced diet who are abit underweight (for example some of the ones at my yard just get oats and chaff with a tiny bit of mix which certainly isn't balanced so the outshine helps rectify this)(This diet was not decided by me by the way!). If a horse looks a bit poor then you'd have to question if it had a balanced diet, though sometimes even with this they can still look poor as things like exercise also affect how they look/utilise food etc. What do you feed at the moment? Is your horse a bit underweight or is it more to make her shiney/coat better etc?

Depending on circumstances I would probably start off by adding some oil gradually to her diet (corn, soya or linseed oil is best), you can add quite a lot (I think up to 50ml a day before you need to adjust the diet in any other way (once you feed over a certain amount you need to add selenium I think (it's a long time since I studied equine nutrtition so i can't remember everything and don't have my notes with me currently sorry!) Anyway try this for prehaps a month and if it doesn't work then probably her diet wasn't balanced to start with and so adding something like outshine would be beneficial (or adjusting her diet so it's more balanced!).

I seem to have used the word balanced a lot! Hope this helps :D
 
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I think it's fab personally. I use it because I got a WB who was a notoriously poor doer and was really skinny when I got him and outshine was recommended by HHOers so thought it might be worth a try. It's brill and really helped him put on condition. I usually get through about 3 bags over winter and that helps him keep the weight through the cold.

I feed it with baileys #4, speedibeet and alfa a oil.
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that is interesting, you feed exactly the same as me (other than the outshine at the mo!)
 
I used outshine to a connie (no difference) and my two TB's, it did make a big difference to the poorer condidioned TB bt none in the other.
 
Allysmalice she isn't poor at all - I was just wittering to my instructor the other day about whether she was fat enough (may as well be honest) to do well in ridden hunter classes. She mentioned outshine, so I thought Id canvass opinion on here. Her coat is lovely - very shiny and soft. Its just that with a no grass situation, I want to ensure she doesnt drop weught which she can do fairly easily.
 
I got onto this when I had a slightly laminitic 13.2 jumping pony for my daughter as it was slow release energy amongst other things. Now have two 14.2 event ponies - first one gets some grass and haylage + two hard feeds daily of HiFi lite, topspec balancer, outshine and (because she needs a little "speedy" food) some competition mix. The other is more of a "blood" pony and competing at BE Novice level purely on grass (all night) some haylage during day and two hard feeds comprising only HiFi lite, topspec balancer and outshine. Both ponies look fab and are hard and fit and plenty of energy so ... it does seem expensive to buy but, given the amounts you feed (one cup twice daily for each of my ponies), I reckon it is costing me about 50p per pony per day which actually doesn't really seem that bad when you look at it like that.
 
If you want purely weigh gain, you could just add like barley rings. I am not a shower but I have heard these are what they feed to get them nice a fat?? I dunno but I think it would work out cheaper. just a thought really :p
 
I use it through winter on all the horses and in summer on the poor doers and really rate it. I use a cup twice daily and in summer it lasts for ages so very good value.
 
The Ginger sausage has a handfull of it with his Happy hoof carrots apple blood salts and Glucosamine, also gets a wipe over once a week with pig oil and sulpher for added shinyness :D sunglassed reqiured on a sunny day :cool:
 
My boy absolutely would TOUCH it!! And apparently it's not an uncommon problem. Had to throw it out and it's VERY expensive!

If you're wanting to feed oil (but not just put a slug in) and maybe put on a bit of weight I would HIGHLY recommend Equijewel! The stuff is incredible!!!!
 
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i personally liked it a lot, it was just expensive. I switched to sunlustre full fat soya which was much cheaper and had a similar effect.

I feed it with alfa oil, and lo-cal or stud balancer and ad lib speedibeet in the winter. he's only on local in the summer!
 
I used small amounts of Outshine for weight gain in a lamitic prone easily excitable oldie and it worked a treat.

She couldn't have anything high is sugar or starch or cereals, so basically had to have a high fibre diet, it was fed alongside Fibrebeet and Happy Hoof.

Outshine is nutionally balanced as well as being mess free which is why I fed it rather than feeding regular oil. I think you need to feed so kind of vitamin or mineral alongside oil if you are feeding any more than a tiny amount, I'm sure a nutritionist would be able to tell you.

Equijewel is also meant to be very good.
 
Outshine is a high oil supplement, not a complete balancer, so you would still need to make sure all nutritional needs are met by either feeding recommended amounts of compound feed or a balancer/vit supplement.
 
AllySmalice said:
Well outshine is a high oil balancer, so would make the most difference to horses not on a balanced diet who are abit underweight (for example some of the ones at my yard just get oats and chaff with a tiny bit of mix which certainly isn't balanced so the outshine helps rectify this)(This diet was not decided by me by the way!). If a horse looks a bit poor then you'd have to question if it had a balanced diet, though sometimes even with this they can still look poor as things like exercise also affect how they look/utilise food etc. What do you feed at the moment? Is your horse a bit underweight or is it more to make her shiney/coat better etc?

Depending on circumstances I would probably start off by adding some oil gradually to her diet (corn, soya or linseed oil is best), you can add quite a lot (I think up to 50ml a day before you need to adjust the diet in any other way (once you feed over a certain amount you need to add selenium I think (it's a long time since I studied equine nutrtition so i can't remember everything and don't have my notes with me currently sorry!) Anyway try this for prehaps a month and if it doesn't work then probably her diet wasn't balanced to start with and so adding something like outshine would be beneficial (or adjusting her diet so it's more balanced!).

I seem to have used the word balanced a lot! Hope this helps :D
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Outshine is not a balancer. It is purely a high oil supplement. It will do absolutely nothing to balance an unbalanced diet.
 
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