Barefoot saddle: Drytex or Leather??

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Hi all. Anyone got experience with a drytex barefoot saddle? Do you like the material? Does it wear well? Last as long as leather? Cleans OK? Is it similar to leather? Do you prefer drytex or leather? Any help much appreciated! Thanks :)
 
Hi all. Anyone got experience with a drytex barefoot saddle? Do you like the material? Does it wear well? Last as long as leather? Cleans OK? Is it similar to leather? Do you prefer drytex or leather? Any help much appreciated! Thanks :)

I've only had mine 6 months. It cleans up amazingly so far - just a scrub with a damp cloth makes it look like new :) No obvious signs of wear yet - I am using webbing leathers with it and no rubs on the fabric. The girth strap holes do wear quite a lot, but just cosmetic.

The one think I'd say against it is that it squeaks :D You don't notice at first, but two hours in to a hack, you get to the stage where you can hear nothing else! I have heard on here that a good dusting with talc can help this - I haven't tried so far.

I bought mine as I'd tried a couple of treeless (a Freeform and a Torsion) before without success, and wasn't sure the Barefoot would work for us so didn't want to spend more than I had to. As it works out, the horse absolutely loves it (much more than I do - it puts me in a horrible position!). So if it is replaced, it will be with a Cherokee and as far as I know, they only come in leather versions.
 
I have both, a leather and a Drytex. The leather one has lasted amazingly well: it was second hand (though almost new) when I got it, and has been my training as well as competition saddle for 4 years. It does a LOT of miles: it's done 10 x 80km rides plus all the associated training to get to those rides. My daughter now rides in it and it is JUST starting to wear through on one flap where the stirrup leather sits. I ride most of the time with sheepskin stirrup leather covers though. It has got VERY wet on more than one occasion and has survived.
The Drytex one is quite new to us (again bought second hand but near new). So far it's holding up well and I love not having to worry about the rain. It does squeak a lot though as Brightbay said, and that's REALLY annoying after 160km!
I was very unimpressed with the stirrup leathers though as they BOTH wore right through at the hole they are set on, and they are less than 2 years old. I use them upside down with an endurance stirrup with a wide bar so I can't see why they would have given up that quickly.
Overall I prefer the leather one. Next time round that's what I'll buy.
 
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I've only had mine 6 months. It cleans up amazingly so far - just a scrub with a damp cloth makes it look like new :) No obvious signs of wear yet - I am using webbing leathers with it and no rubs on the fabric. The girth strap holes do wear quite a lot, but just cosmetic.

The one think I'd say against it is that it squeaks :D You don't notice at first, but two hours in to a hack, you get to the stage where you can hear nothing else! I have heard on here that a good dusting with talc can help this - I haven't tried so far.

I bought mine as I'd tried a couple of treeless (a Freeform and a Torsion) before without success, and wasn't sure the Barefoot would work for us so didn't want to spend more than I had to. As it works out, the horse absolutely loves it (much more than I do - it puts me in a horrible position!). So if it is replaced, it will be with a Cherokee and as far as I know, they only come in leather versions.

Eek that sounds annoying! And I was debating whether to get the Cherokee but decided on Cheyenne as it said closer contact with horse :)
 
I have both, a leather and a Drytex. The leather one has lasted amazingly well: it was second hand (though almost new) when I got it, and has been my training as well as competition saddle for 4 years. It does a LOT of miles: it's done 10 x 80km rides plus all the associated training to get to those rides. My daughter now rides in it and it is JUST starting to wear through on one flap where the stirrup leather sits. I ride most of the time with sheepskin stirrup leather covers though. It has got VERY wet on more than one occasion and has survived.
The Drytex one is quite new to us (again bought second hand but near new). So far it's holding up well and I love not having to worry about the rain. It does squeak a lot though as Brightbay said, and that's REALLY annoying after 160km!
I was very unimpressed with the stirrup leathers though as they BOTH wore right through at the hole they are set on, and they are less than 2 years old. I use them upside down with an endurance stirrup with a wide bar so I can't see why they would have given up that quickly.
Overall I prefer the leather one. Next time round that's what I'll buy.

When you say you don't have to worry bout rain with drytex, why is that? Do you mean as opposed to leather which is not good in rain. Is the drytex as soft and good at molding as leather? As I wanted to feel the horse, don't really want stiff material. Can you use any stirrup leathers? Thanks :)
 
BTW what saddles do you both have??

I have the Cheyenne Drytex. You can use any stirrup leathers, but because the stirrup bars are closed rings, you need to use safety stirrups of some kind. I just use synthetic web ones for convenience - you fit them with the buckle at the bottom, and they have less thickness under the leg than leather ones.

I think the not worrying about getting it wet is because water doesn't affect the material in the way leather would be damaged by continually getting soaked. The Drytex doesn't seem to absorb water. It feels pretty much like leather to ride in. I can't say about the close contact, because the shape of my horse means we have a lot of pads and shims under the saddle - for close contact I ride with a Christ Lammfelle bareback pad. The Cheyenne is because I also ride on roads and in company and need a formal saddle, and we have had continual fails with treed saddles and saddle fitters. The horse is short backed, very broad, but has withers. The Cheyenne means we can use a short saddle (I use the size 1), and shim to account for withers, but his big shoulders are free and he strides out much better.

The reason I would move to the Cherokee is that (possibly because of the horse's shape), the Cheyenne tips me forward and I have to work quite hard to sit in a good position. Downhill at walk and trot is wobbly, downhill at a canter is not something I'm willing to do at the moment :D The Cherokee has knee rolls which I think may help - but I'll be trying out a friend's one first! The advice I got when buying the Cheyenne was that you had to have an independent seat - well, I'm not bad, I ride bareback a lot, fine at all paces, still wobbly on corners (because we hack, we don't do school circles ;) ). But bareback doesn't tip you forward - you can choose your position, either chair seat or long dressage style position, and be with the horse's movement. Even though you can move the position of the stirrup bars on the Cheyenne, somehow my legs are always dragged backwards. It feels lovely if I drop my stirrups and use it as a bareback pad, but to ride normally I have to have stirrups much shorter than I would with e.g. my dressage saddle and I don't like that.

That's just a reflection of the combination of me and my horse, though- how well it works will depend on how you like to ride and what shape your horse is.
 
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I have the Cheyenne Drytex. You can use any stirrup leathers, but because the stirrup bars are closed rings, you need to use safety stirrups of some kind. I just use synthetic web ones for convenience - you fit them with the buckle at the bottom, and they have less thickness under the leg than leather ones.

I think the not worrying about getting it wet is because water doesn't affect the material in the way leather would be damaged by continually getting soaked. The Drytex doesn't seem to absorb water. It feels pretty much like leather to ride in. I can't say about the close contact, because the shape of my horse means we have a lot of pads and shims under the saddle - for close contact I ride with a Christ Lammfelle bareback pad. The Cheyenne is because I also ride on roads and in company and need a formal saddle, and we have had continual fails with treed saddles and saddle fitters. The horse is short backed, very broad, but has withers. The Cheyenne means we can use a short saddle (I use the size 1), and shim to account for withers, but his big shoulders are free and he strides out much better.

The reason I would move to the Cherokee is that (possibly because of the horse's shape), the Cheyenne tips me forward and I have to work quite hard to sit in a good position. Downhill at walk and trot is wobbly, downhill at a canter is not something I'm willing to do at the moment :D The Cherokee has knee rolls which I think may help - but I'll be trying out a friend's one first! The advice I got when buying the Cheyenne was that you had to have an independent seat - well, I'm not bad, I ride bareback a lot, fine at all paces, still wobbly on corners (because we hack, we don't do school circles ;) ). But bareback doesn't tip you forward - you can choose your position, either chair seat or long dressage style position, and be with the horse's movement. Even though you can move the position of the stirrup bars on the Cheyenne, somehow my legs are always dragged backwards. It feels lovely if I drop my stirrups and use it as a bareback pad, but to ride normally I have to have stirrups much shorter than I would with e.g. my dressage saddle and I don't like that.

That's just a reflection of the combination of me and my horse, though- how well it works will depend on how you like to ride and what shape your horse is.

Hmm sounds like I'm just going to have to get one and see if its right! I'm not able to trial one unfortunately. I see what you mean about the water and drytex. I hope you manage to find the right saddle too :D
 
I have a Cheyenne. I don't find it tips me forward (and I ride pretty long) but as Brightbay says it's a horse-rider-saddle combination issue. I don't find any significant difference in the closeness of the contact between the leather and the Drytex (I am currently on the hunt for a treed dressage saddle to satisfy stupid Adult Riding Club rules and OMG - I feel like I'm a foot away from my horse!).
The Drytex doesn't seem to absorb water - it beds on the surface. Mind you I am talking about feeble West Australian rain not a proper English downpour! I
I am going to try a "normal" pair of synthetic leathers (rather than the very expensive Barefoot ones) as I can't see how they are any different, so we'll see how they last.
 
I asked about the drytex a while ago, and was advised against it, because of the squeak.

I've got a barefoot London.
 
Thanks both. Very helpful. I'm still a bit undecided whether to get leather or drytex but will just have to make my mind up! :D
 
Thanks both. Very helpful. I'm still a bit undecided whether to get leather or drytex but will just have to make my mind up! :D

:D We weren't much help, were we? They're all nice saddles... you could consider a second hand to try out if you wanted to avoid the depreciation ;) They come up on eBay quite frequently. Just go for one that looks pretty new - the well used secondhand treeless seem to loose some of their shape and strength.
 
I've got a cheyenne and the new barrydale - both in leather and no issues with either. The cheyenne has had a fair few soakings and is still going strong (I've had it 6 years now).

I only bought the barrydale because I am feeling my age these days and creak a lot more than I used to so I wanted something that would give me some leg support.
 
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