BD Area Festival Query

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Ferdinase514

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Owing to JoC and myself accidently upgrading to Group 6 rider status, we are now totally confused as to which section we have to enter in the Area Festival.

We've both qualified as Novice Restricted Riders, but are now Novice Open. So do we enter the open or restricted section at the AF?

Rule book is as clear as mud
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My interpretation of the rule book is that you can still do the AF restricted section unless you also qualify and enter the elementay AF as well, as you cannot compete in the restricted section in two levels.

To be on the safe side I would check with BD and agree it's not exactly clear in the rule book!!!
 
So would you have to actually enter the elem restricted or just qualify to put yourself out of the novice restricted? Sorry having a blonde day today.
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If you qualify at Nov Restricted but have since upgraded you can still do the Nov Restricted. If you also qualify by doing the required two Elem Restricted, you can choose to do either the Nov R or the Ele R, however you cannot do both.

Hope that helps.
 
If you have qualified at Novice Restricted but do not intend to do Elem rest, then you are entitled to stay as Novice Rest.

Morally however, you should consider riding as Novice Open at an Area Festival, leaving the Restricted section for those who are less experienced than you.
 
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Morally however, you should consider riding as Novice Open at an Area Festival, leaving the Restricted section for those who are less experienced than you.

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Apparently doing a single elementary test and scoring 60% on the dot makes me immoral for wanting to stay at Novice Restricted, a level i have only ridden at for 1 year.

Mmm def too experienced.....
 
Fair enough - agreed, a scant handful of points does not make you greatly more experienced.

However, those who positively glory in their "right" to retain their restricted qualification, despite regularly gaining mid 60s marks at the level above are, IMO, pushing the point. That may be within the letter of the rules, but it isn't within the spirit.
 
I'm sorry I am a bit confused. Surely if someone has a 'right' to ride at a certain level then they are entitled to do so. The best chance you will ever have to suceeding is to be bl**dy good at the level you are in rather than jump up a level too soon.....and yes I have been beaten by better riders too but its a fact to life.
 
But in this case neither Finn nor I have regularly gained over 60% at the level above as expained in the original post. We both entered the class as a training exercise and were very surprised to say the least to gain 60%+. I hardly feel that entering the novice restricted at the Area Festivals is not within the spirit in our case.
 
Lol!

Perhaps we should have entered the training section....but i think that would have spoilt the fun!

Don't actually mind which section i enter TBH
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Would just like to know which one.

**note to self...phone BD today**
 
psssst Finn - there wasn't a training section
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Does seem like nobody really knows the answer to this though
 
Finn, no need to ring BD - you are perfectly entitiled to enter the Restricted section - both by the letter and spirit of the rules. Regarding the latter, 1 point does not an "experienced rider at the next level" make.

A person would still be withiin their "rights" to enter Novice Restricted even if they qualified during the appropriate period and then had gone on to get half a dozen winning scores at Elementary and qualified, but chosen not to attend, a Regional Championship.

The latter is what I mean about not following the spirit of the rules. Although I've exaggerated above rather - I know of some in a broadly similar situation who did just that. One in particular qualified for but did not attend a Regional at Elementary. She did not opt to ride Open Novice at the AF, and promptly won her Rest Novice class and went on to the Finals the following April. By the time she got there, her horse was established at Medium and, not surprisingly, she did rather well.

To me, that is pot-hunting. She was more than capable of holding her own in the Regionals at Elementary, but deliberately chose to take the easier option because she wanted to maximise her chances of "winning". Which I find very sad - but then have always been of the opion that it is the taking part that matters, not the winning.

And to those who say - OK, tighten up the rules - to restrict things even further in order to catch some who ought to know better, you'd end up knocking out a lot more who would not deserve it. It is also an unfortunate fact that, the more detail you include because people chose to interpret rigidly, the more you have to put in as the barrack room lawyers take over. The Rule Book is complicated enough as it is - it doesn't need to get any worse!
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Hmm I get the feeling we are fighting from the same corner here!
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I do know exactly what you mean just didn't want you or others to assume that Finn or I were going out to pothunt when that really isn't the case.
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Hmm I get the feeling we are fighting from the same corner here!
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I do know exactly what you mean just didn't want you or others to assume that Finn or I were going out to pothunt when that really isn't the case.
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Does that mean I can't pot hunt
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Bugger
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