charlie76
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Is it ok for some one to warm up your horse for dressage other than the ride that is competing?
BE rules on dressage warm up and riders- help please...
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KatB
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There are no rules saying you cant have another rider.... however, they may be restrictions on non registered riders riding at a BE event....
Seahorse
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Just an observation, but there was someone warming up someone's horse for them yesterday at the dressage. They were obviously 'sorting it out' for them too as it was being quite naughty. But I wondered at the time whether that was permitted!
Sparklet
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Dont know about eventing but in BD it is not permitted at Championships only (even then someone can walk the horse)
ecrozier
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About 2 years ago my instructor happenned to be at same show as me (local rc dressage) and my horse was being a pig, so she got on for me for 10 mins in the warm up and someone reported us and I got disqualified! Didn't come anywhere anyway, and totally didn't realised itwasn't allowed! Think they said it was in BRC rules?
Sparklet
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Thats news to me - cant say it is not in the rules but I certainly cant remember it being there.
I know when we have run comps we tend run them under BD rules except for the hat (no beaglers) because no-one knows what the RC rules are. Most are the same as BD anyway.
Seems a bit unfair - and would have been interesting if you had asked them to show you a copy of their rules. Too late now though.
I know when we have run comps we tend run them under BD rules except for the hat (no beaglers) because no-one knows what the RC rules are. Most are the same as BD anyway.
Seems a bit unfair - and would have been interesting if you had asked them to show you a copy of their rules. Too late now though.
ElleJS
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I'm sure it is not allowed. Although may be this was under FEI rules/3DE.
At Weston 3DE someone got eliminated as some one else warmed up their horse. You are allowed a loose contact (ie Hacking) and thats it.
At Weston 3DE someone got eliminated as some one else warmed up their horse. You are allowed a loose contact (ie Hacking) and thats it.
jennystreek
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this is quite a useful point, as i have 2 horses at tweseldown next weekend and was banking on my friend warming one of them up for dressage, should the times be tight. having said that, i only wanted her to walk him round for 20 mins to just settle him, not actually 'work' on him
tigers_eye
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Echo ElleJS, it is def an FEI rule and I'm sure it is a BE rule too - a groom, or anyone other than the rider, is allowed to walk a horse on a loose rein, or may trot/canter with a contact as long as they are getting it from point A to B, ie from lorry to ring or something, but absolutely no schooling of any sort. BE will always give you a reasonable amount of time between tests/rounds, riders can fit up to five horses in a day and they manage, even if someone does have to lunge a horse for a bit for them.
Dutch
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I think it is allowed providing the class is not a championship but I would check in the rulebook.
I don't mean to be rude but if someone isn't capable of warming their horse up I would seriously consider whether they are experienced enough to compete? If it is just a case that the rider is taking a few horses to a competition then this is something totally different!
I don't mean to be rude but if someone isn't capable of warming their horse up I would seriously consider whether they are experienced enough to compete? If it is just a case that the rider is taking a few horses to a competition then this is something totally different!
wizzi901
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In this case I would assume that rider is taking more than one horse or has limited time, she is certainly experienced enough lol!!
charlie76
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Thanks Marsden- not sure I'm any the wiser though! The reason for asking is that the horse in question tends to become tight and tense when at an event although he works well at home. We have tried various different warm up methods but its still still an issue. Therefore we were thinking that perhaps it might be a tense rider issue, we were going to try with me warming the horse up and the rider getting on just before the test.Just to see if it is the horse or the rider that tenses up!
I did see a grey horse at Larkhill on Sunday being warmed up by some one then the rider got on.
I did see a grey horse at Larkhill on Sunday being warmed up by some one then the rider got on.
Worried1
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It is allowed for BD but not at championships.
I disagree with the point if you are not capable of warming your horse up you shouldn't be at a competition.
I had a very bad fall the year before last year and finally got back in the saddle in November after buying a new horse. It has been a long slog and I have begun competing again in the last month or so. I am a capable rider whor previous to my fall had competed to a reasonable level and worked on several professional yards as a rider.
I was a long time out the saddle and really lost my nerve. I am hugely frustrated my own inadequetness
I tend to get worried at competitions so my OH hops on and gives my horse a walk trot and canter (he doesn't improve her way of going) and then I get on and warm up.
I don't see anything wrong in this - it boosts my confidence as I see that she behaves and doesn't do anything silly (to be far she never has done which is why we bought her) and it sets a clear standard for our horse to adhere to therefore reducing the margin for things to go wrong in the future.
It isn't a case of wanting to win for me it is getting back to doing what I really enjoy and building up my confidence. Please don't be so quick to judge you never know that windy rider you see having someone ride her horse might just be me!
I disagree with the point if you are not capable of warming your horse up you shouldn't be at a competition.
I had a very bad fall the year before last year and finally got back in the saddle in November after buying a new horse. It has been a long slog and I have begun competing again in the last month or so. I am a capable rider whor previous to my fall had competed to a reasonable level and worked on several professional yards as a rider.
I was a long time out the saddle and really lost my nerve. I am hugely frustrated my own inadequetness
I tend to get worried at competitions so my OH hops on and gives my horse a walk trot and canter (he doesn't improve her way of going) and then I get on and warm up.
I don't see anything wrong in this - it boosts my confidence as I see that she behaves and doesn't do anything silly (to be far she never has done which is why we bought her) and it sets a clear standard for our horse to adhere to therefore reducing the margin for things to go wrong in the future.
It isn't a case of wanting to win for me it is getting back to doing what I really enjoy and building up my confidence. Please don't be so quick to judge you never know that windy rider you see having someone ride her horse might just be me!