Beaglers?? Yes or No??

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Hi peeps. Just a quick question. I love the Charles & Owen Beagler and i am thinking of getting one for In Hand Classes. I am just wondering what other classes you can wear them in as there is a lot of speculation about the 'safety' of them and ive read that alot of RCs and Societys are banning the use of them now :(

I have had a change of heart about getting another horse for riding and am now looking to get into In Hand Showing with ponies ;) Looking for a nice Section A at the mo :D

Will i be able to use a Beagler for In Hand???
 
Seriously, dont do it! A lady at a local Show was showing her horse in hand a couple or so years ago. The horse spooked and knocked her over and it landed on her head. Sadly she died. Wear a proper hat with a flesh coloured chin strap if you prefer. Not worth the risk and in my opinion they should be banned.
 
I completely understand where you are coming from but alot of people wear a flat cap (males) or no hat at all :confused:
 
Another here who is against beaglers....I really dont see the point. Get yourself a hat that offers proper protection (and use the chin strap).
 
I agree, really don't understand why anyone bothers with a beagler, might as well wear nothing. Get a proper hat and use the straps.
 
Why pay that much money for what is basically a fashion item ?
You may feel they make you look better than a safety one but all I can think of when I see them is how vain !

Wear a proper hat fastened which will protect you in an accident or wear an ordinary one you like.
 
My beagler was consigned to the shelf when a, the H2's came out & b, we witnessed a good friend (who was handling her 5 yr old entire 13.2 native) get shoved over by him & fall hitting her head badly as the beagler 'shoved' upwards on impact leaving her temple exposed. She is still in a wheelchair to this day & has 24 hr care...........

Yes, I loved the Beagler in the 80's, but as I showed many youngsters & stallions in hand, it just wasn't worth the safety compromise ultimately when a good replacement came out - which I had to then wear under 'rules' for ridden so kept the look the same for all showing classes (in hand, ridden & whp)
 
I wouldn't bother myself, I think the flesh leather harnesses look really smart so you may as well get a hat that actually offers you some protection too - the charles owen velvet hats are gorgeous, but I would def go for one with a harness. It's just a posh, expensive, useless hat otherwise!!
 
Hi, I have the Charles Owen Beagler & had it professionally fitted. In order for it to be as 'safe' as possible it had to be fitted very very tight and it kills me. The pressure gives me a headache after about 20 minutes of wearing it and when I take it off it takes hours for the marks on my forehead to disappear. Heaven forebid a bit of hair is ruffled up in my hairnet because if it goes on over the top of a slight lump it causes real pain.

It's honestly not worth the money on any front. I admit they do look great but even that's not worth the discomfort!

What size are you? You can willingly have mine if you want to pay P&P!!! PM me if you like :)
 
I love mine, and for in hand you see so money people with nothing, its better protection than that!
Saying that I am not a health and safety freak, and i think it looks nice :)
 
I love em tbh, look loads smarter (but I agree there is risk attached). I wear mine to ride in when competing BD or in shows where safety harnesses are not specified. Everything in life is a risk and you choose your own risks, I choose not to smoke or drink alcohol but to wear a beagler on certain horses at certain shows...

You pays your money you takes your choices...

BnBx
 
Or you can just do what I did - I got a cheap (£20) velvet hat at Badminton, and cut the straps off. The look of a Beagler without the cost. When I'm running Genie I have a soft hat, but with Milly (2 year old) I want something hard on my head.
 
If you're going to get a beagler buy a fitted one. DO NOT buy a normal velvet hat and cut the straps off, it will not fit properly and could cause more damage than without a hard hat.
 
I have had one before (a few years ago), bought it off ebay, it was pretty much new in the box and was a bargain. It fitted lovely and it didnt move. I ended up selling it as it was a 'spur of the moment purchase' and i never used it at the time, thought it was gonna end up in the cupboard collecting dust! Typical now i want one again! If anyone has one for sale i would be interested..... Im after a black one, size 6 7/8 or 56cm ;)
 
Sorry to derail slightly but very interesting reading about the bad experiences without proper head protection in this thread - Sure we make our own choices, but I bet those individuals who are either disabled or worse from lack of proper head protection wish they made the OTHER choice (if they are still capable of wishing at all!)
 
I do not see the point in them. No protection, and a velvet hat with flesh coloured harness looks just as smart.
 
Izzwizz said:
Seriously, dont do it! A lady at a local Show was showing her horse in hand a couple or so years ago. The horse spooked and knocked her over and it landed on her head. Sadly she died. Wear a proper hat with a flesh coloured chin strap if you prefer. Not worth the risk and in my opinion they should be banned.
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Shibden Dale RC...I remember that happening :( :(

I have a navy hat with flesh coloured harness and always wear it for in hand, even when showing my mini Shettie...I know even if she went vertical she wouldn't reach to injure my head but it's not just about what your horse could do to you. I've seen horses spook or have a bronco at something more than once and their handler has let them go and they've gone bucking and squealing round the ring loose :o
 
TelH said:
Shibden Dale RC...I remember that happening :( :(

I have a navy hat with flesh coloured harness and always wear it for in hand, even when showing my mini Shettie...I know even if she went vertical she wouldn't reach to injure my head but it's not just about what your horse could do to you. I've seen horses spook or have a bronco at something more than once and their handler has let them go and they've gone bucking and squealing round the ring loose :o
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Yes it was that Show, very very sad. My Farrier looked after the horses's feet in question. From memory the lady's husband and children were there too.
 
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