Bit pulls out more on one side. Suggestions?

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I normally use a neue schule verbindend loose ring for Kasper but i am finding it is pulling out at least 2cms on the right side (he needs a lot of work with the right rein to soften) and is becoming progressivley more unhappy with the bit. Obviously if 2cms is stuck out one side the lozenge in the middle will be completely off centre and its action lost.

I have just had a neue schule turtle top loose ring arrive today after a recommendation, and whilst Kasper schooled better in it than the verbindend it still pulls out slightly on the right side (approx 1cm).

Kasper is a 16,2 hunter type with a big fat head but only takes a 5 inch bit so reluctant to go down to a smaller size.

I'm thinking of trying a hanging cheek or just go back to something with an eggbutt cheek.

What are peoples thoughts?
 

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I normally use a neue schule verbindend loose ring for Kasper but i am finding it is pulling out at least 2cms on the right side (he needs a lot of work with the right rein to soften) and is becoming progressivley more unhappy with the bit. Obviously if 2cms is stuck out one side the lozenge in the middle will be completely off centre and its action lost.

I have just had a neue schule turtle top loose ring arrive today after a recommendation, and whilst Kasper schooled better in it than the verbindend it still pulls out slightly on the right side (approx 1cm).

Kasper is a 16,2 hunter type with a big fat head but only takes a 5 inch bit so reluctant to go down to a smaller size.

I'm thinking of trying a hanging cheek or just go back to something with an eggbutt cheek.

What are peoples thoughts?

Hi I had exactly the same thing with my mare and in the end tried a normal eggbutt French link - she was much happier and goes much better softer etc than any of the NS bits I tried. Hope this helps a bit😀
 

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Hi I had exactly the same thing with my mare and in the end tried a normal eggbutt French link - she was much happier and goes much better softer etc than any of the NS bits I tried. Hope this helps a bit��

Thanks for the reply. I think trying an eggbutt is definitely worth a go.
 

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I doubt it's anything to do with the bit itself. I would think your horse is slightly crooked & finds it more difficult to bend to the right. Are you holding your reins at equal lengths? You may find that you are holding your right rein shorter to compensate, pulling the bit through the right of the mouth.
 

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I doubt it's anything to do with the bit itself. I would think your horse is slightly crooked & finds it more difficult to bend to the right. Are you holding your reins at equal lengths? You may find that you are holding your right rein shorter to compensate, pulling the bit through the right of the mouth.

Yes he is very stiff right and it is something we are working with, you have to have more action down the right rein with him, so whilst me reins are the same length the right rein is more 'active'. However if i do the same action on the left rein the bit doesnt pull through to the left, only ever out the right side.
 

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I've just had this with a Myler. Turns out my bridle isnt totally level! Nothing you could see by eye, but when he was wearing it, it didnt sit quite right
 

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I'd definitely try lots of supplying exercises & get his teeth checked also. If he has any soreness/ulcers caused by the bit rubbing due to the situation you describe it would likely make him more inclined to position his head/neck to the left. Bit of a catch 22!
 

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I was wondering this as I do the exact same thing. Does he do it loose schooling or long reining?

I doubt it's anything to do with the bit itself. I would think your horse is slightly crooked & finds it more difficult to bend to the right. Are you holding your reins at equal lengths? You may find that you are holding your right rein shorter to compensate, pulling the bit through the right of the mouth.
 

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I had the same thing with my gelding. He was in a plain loose ring snaffle, but the but was too thick for him. I changed his bit to another loose ring snaffle that was thinner and I've not had any problems since.

Edited to say;

Hes recently had teeth checked
 

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It's usually when they are crooked and not working evenly on both reins. My mare does this sometimes and we do lots of lateral work which usually resolves the straightness issues.
 

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I'd definitely try lots of supplying exercises & get his teeth checked also. If he has any soreness/ulcers caused by the bit rubbing due to the situation you describe it would likely make him more inclined to position his head/neck to the left. Bit of a catch 22!

He does suppleness exercise each time he's ridden and his teeth are fully up to date. No sores or ulcers that I can see.

He is very fiddly in his mouth anyway so might just be the way he leans on the bit.

I will check his bridle though, see if it is actually level!
 

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first thought was bridle isn't level. I got on my pony today is usually really soft on both reins, he was ever so heavy on his right. I dismounted and the right side was sticking out a lot. Turns out my bridle was wonky due to the noseband, pulled the noseband through so the bridle sat level with the noseband and the bit stopped sliding up .
 

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first thought was bridle isn't level. I got on my pony today is usually really soft on both reins, he was ever so heavy on his right. I dismounted and the right side was sticking out a lot. Turns out my bridle was wonky due to the noseband, pulled the noseband through so the bridle sat level with the noseband and the bit stopped sliding up .

my bridle cheek pieces are on the same hole both sides. is it okay to put the left side up one hole?
 

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It should sit level unless the leather has stretched on one side, it was the noseband making mine go wonky as it was higher up on one side, so when the noseband sat level, the cheek pieces were odd. Alternatively get rid of the noseband and see if the bridle sits any better, you can see at the ears if it is lop sided, as where the headpiece splits, the split will be at a different level on each side :)
 

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Mine isnt a dirt cheap bridle, think it was £80 ish, but it still wasnt even. Not sure if it was the holes or the fit or what, but the bit doesnt sit level if I use that bridle. It looks fine with a casual glance, but when I realised there was a problem and looked properly, its definitely wonky
 
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