Bit question

[MagicMelon]

Which bits are between a straight bar plain snaffle and a kimblewick? Boy goes great on the flat in his kimblewick but I think its a little too strong to jump in but am finding the snaffle isnt enough! He prefers straight bar bits (rather than jointed). Any ideas?

 

[Rambo]

I'm a bit confused (not a rare state for me

)...

Why would you want a stronger bit on the flat than for jumping ? Surely, if okay on the flat, you should be able to jump him in it, unless he needs something stronger.

Or have I just completely missed the plot here

 

[flyingfeet]

Probably a baucher or a 3 ring straight bar gag, used on the big ring should achieve what you are after.

 

[Fiona]

Hanging cheek (is that another name for a baucher), or loosen the kimblewick curb chain?? Would that make enough of a difference?
Fiona

 

[flyingfeet]

Yes hanging cheek and filet baucher are one and the same.

Some people call them half cheek, but that's incorrect as you can get true half cheeks, which are essentially a chopped off full cheek, but also designed to stop the bit from being pulled through the mouth.

 

[MagicMelon]

Rambo - Sorry I dont think I made myself clear. He goes well on the flat in his kimblewick, this is what I ride him in most of the time at home. However to jump, I find its a little too strong in that he feels like he wants more freedom (even though I dont catch him in the mouth etc.). So I tried jumping him in his snaffle but it's not strong enough. So basically kimblewick is too strong, snaffle not strong enough.

Yeah, Ive tried a hanging cheek french link on him, he didnt like it. He doesnt seem to like jointed bits all that much.

A gag? Hmmmm.... I have a thing against gags.....! But I guess I could try one and see!

 

[flyingfeet]

Actually a gag is a bad term for the continental / bubble bits I was referring to

In terms of action a 3 ring gag (not longer 4 ring), with a curb is very similar to a slotted kimblewick or pelham with roundings.

 

[Rambo]

Ahhhh...I understand better now

Have you tried removing the curb chain on the Kimblewick, or replacing it with a leather strap ? Other than that, i'm a bit stumped for ideas when it comes to ported or straight bar bits

I guess a mullen mouth pelham is too much too ?