Bleugh.. Bad times, bits and (pole) bashing at Buckminster

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So the run of happy outings had to end eventually - not a disaster but definatly disappointing :(

Yet again we set off at the crack of dawn for an 8.20am dressage, fortunately slightly closer than last early bird outing so i could walk the course the day before resulting in a fairly civilised 6.25am departure from the yard. KatB had kindly offered to join me (clearly has major BE withdrawl to get up at that time :p) meaning i could quite leisurely stud up while she wandered off to get my number. Off to the warm up and went fairly smoothly. We are in an interim stage of schooling at the moment where he is starting to get the hang of working through his back but if i ask for too much energy from the back end he cant quite hold it and charges off unbalanced with his head in the air. Decided the safest option was to keep it quiet and together which is best achieved in sitting trot, again though he is not fully ready for this so looses a bit of 'swing'

Test itself felt loads better than catton. much more balanced on turns and bending nicely, tendency to drop a little behind the vertical at times so some inconsistancy as i tried (not very well :eek:) to ride him forward more when this happened. slightly disappointed with score of 35, only 0.5 better than last test :( put us about mid section after dressage but know there are more marks to come so trying not to worry about it too much, judges comments were basically she would like to see him swing through his back more then he would score higher so pretty fair.

On to showjumping and arena seemed very big after lots of indoor SJ of late. After his arena ODE at vale view the weekend before i was worried i might have knocked his confidence a little so decided to keep him in the snaffle in case he backed off. BIG MISTAKE :rolleyes: snaffle is lovely in enclosed indoor school but B set off round the field sized SJ arena in a lovely XC canter :eek: as soon as i asked him to steady, he leant on the bit and charged off resulting in flat jumps and 2 poles down :mad: instuctor also made me put stirrups down last week and looking at pics seems this has resulted in complete loss of my lower leg position so they will be going straight back up again! on the plus side he definately wasnt backing off his fences so i havent dented his confidence too much :eek:

quick change and over to XC. Had bitted up this time, put him in his kimblewick which after experimenting at home over the last couple of weeks seems his preferred option for more control. warmed up in lovely SJ canter :rolleyes: though didnt seem to want to really open up but he's sometimes like that in the warmup area so didnt think to much of it and popped the jumps nicely. Trotted through to the start box, couple little circles, 10,9,8.. into start box, 7,6.. B suddenly starts mouthing wildly and tongue going mad.. 5,4.. hes got his tongue over the bit, cue frantically trying to reach into his mouth from the saddle to get it back.. 3,2.. arrrggghhh cant get it back over... 1, go... final attempt, not 100% its back but a few secs late we're out of the start box. Now normally he heads out quite steadily so having to ride him down to the first didnt really worry, still not forward to 2 but it had a lot of plastic pigs underneath so maybe he's looking at them? big kick and he flys it, turn to 3, popped nicely then steady canter again to log trailer at 4 :confused: leg on and ballooned it, turned up the hill, now we'll go :) nope :( continued that way round whole course, jumped all the fences really nicely but never really opened up between which was very weird as has been VERY forward at home and at previous BE100. took long route at final corner as not really sure what he was doing so didnt want to risk silly run out on record and finished clear with 14 time faults.

so much debating of cause, possibly tongue not back over bit? was very forward in SJ in snaffle and came off XC hardly sweating so definately not fitness issue. Possibly bit of muscle fatigue as has been working very hard since coming back into full training 6/7 weeks ago? gave him couple days off and he had sports massage yesterday where he had quite a lot of tightness in his pectoral muscles, possibly related? will take him for hack tomorrow and see how he feels and have ordered new bit which will hopefully be better for XC then see how he is at stafford.

pro pics here: as you can see SJ is awful :eek: he's usually really good through his shoulder over fences too so the inverted jumps are very abnormal :mad:
http://www.horsepower-photography.co.uk/viewdir.tlx?albumid=274559

if direct link doesnt work - http://www.horsepower-photography.co.uk/libraryhome.tlx Buckminster ODE, section C, page 2, no 104 Primitive Storm

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Sounds like the dressage is coming. Stirrups definitely need to go up - it just looks like the loss of lower leg has propelled your upper body forwards which might not help the shape of the jump combined with him being a bit gungho.

Hope the rest of the bitting issues get resolved.
 

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Sounds like the dressage is coming. Stirrups definitely need to go up - it just looks like the loss of lower leg has propelled your upper body forwards which might not help the shape of the jump combined with him being a bit gungho.

Hope the rest of the bitting issues get resolved.

Thanks LEC, glad you think so too! felt horrid when instructor first made me put them down but he then made me jump a 95cm course with no pedals at all so felt much better after that! siggy pic of us jumping was at catton 3 weeks ago so my riding cant have deteriorated that much in less than a month!

The pictures look better than the report reads so can't of been all bad, onwards and upwards to your next event:)

Thanks :) love that about pictures, give me a few weeks and i'll have forgotten all the rest and can just look at the XC jump pics and think how gorgeous he looks :D
 

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If I didn't know better I'd think you'd had a rubbish day! You didn't! I think the longer pedal length def unbalanced you a bit which probably made it harder for you to hold him together between fences. Focus on the good bits (consistent dressage score and clear XC) and file away the bits you are not so pleased with.

I'll take the Crabbes please as my Aspinalls glass is almost empty :rolleyes:
 

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After reading the report I was expecting truly hideous photos - but not the case! Obviously felt worse than it looked and not a bad result at all - decent dressage (and you know you can do better), anyone can have a couple of poles and you went clear XC. In most people's books that would be a good day! :D

And..........you have a very lovely horse :D :D
 

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Oh dear - we all have off days try not to dwell on it and change what needs to change (if anything!) and next outing will be better :) He is lovely looking horse - looks super sort. Only thing I would say about the XC pics is you need to be out the saddle more, seem to be on his back a lot - course may just have been the points the photos taken!!
 

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If I didn't know better I'd think you'd had a rubbish day! You didn't! I think the longer pedal length def unbalanced you a bit which probably made it harder for you to hold him together between fences. Focus on the good bits (consistent dressage score and clear XC) and file away the bits you are not so pleased with.

I'll take the Crabbes please as my Aspinalls glass is almost empty :rolleyes:

After reading the report I was expecting truly hideous photos - but not the case! Obviously felt worse than it looked and not a bad result at all - decent dressage (and you know you can do better), anyone can have a couple of poles and you went clear XC. In most people's books that would be a good day! :D

And..........you have a very lovely horse :D :D

Thanks guys :eek: this time last year i'd have been delighted, in fact if he'd been his usual XC machine self on saturday i'd not have thought twice about the other bits, think it was just that he didnt seem happy XC that got me down a little. New bit arrived this morning though and he's full of fresh grass after a couple of days off so fingers crossed i'll have my happy pony back tonight :)
 

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He looks a lot happier in the show jumping pictures, can you hold him in snaffle?
He is a lovely horse, is he by Primitive Rising?

He definately felt much more forward in the SJ though was getting faster and flatter as the round went on in the snaffle. took him round catton XC couple weeks ago in snaffle and really struggled to get him back and balanced for the fences which is why i'd tried something a little stronger this time. Think i may have found an in-betweeny though. just had a tongue-saver, lozenge kimblewick delivered and going to try with elastic curb, apparently acts much more like snaffle action (he has a NS trans lozenge normally) but will get a little more control from soft curb and wont squash his tongue like straight bar on cambridge mouth kimblewick so hopefully he wont want to stick his tongue over it! fingers crossed (thanks Jen-Cots for the advice :)).

he is lovely isnt he?! :D i may be a bit biased though, he's homebred by primitive proposal out of my old pony-club irish cob mare. really starting to grow into himself this year- was a bit of an ugly duckling but hoping he's beginning his transformation into a graceful swan :p
 

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Oh dear - we all have off days try not to dwell on it and change what needs to change (if anything!) and next outing will be better :) He is lovely looking horse - looks super sort. Only thing I would say about the XC pics is you need to be out the saddle more, seem to be on his back a lot - course may just have been the points the photos taken!!

Thanks DHB. dont worry i'll have forgotten all the bad bits soon! my brain is very good at filtering them out and convincing me to spend my life savings on the next comp :D yep- i was on his back quite a lot :( not normally, just with his lack of forwardness was trying to drive him away from the fences hence the slighly dodgy looking, throw reins at him, sit down and kick pic :eek: was off his back more between fences but think was probably sitting up more coming into fences too so i could ride him in when he wasnt taking me. do have tendency to over-set up for fences though generally which i need to sort out so will definately make a mental note to make sure i'm off his back as much as possible at the next one. thanks
 
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