Blocked Bridle Path - rant and help please....

The Bouncing Bog Trotter

Well-Known Member
Joined
7 December 2008
Messages
2,009
Location
East Sussex
Visit site
We are very lucky as our yard has direct access out onto a bridle path which leads to quiet lanes and other bridle paths. The alternative is to come out of the yard onto a very busy and narrow B road. The distances involved in our network of country roads means that you can't get to the quiet lanes and bridle paths by road - it's just too far (and too risky).

About 4 years ago the owner of the land crossed by the bridle path built a lake leaving a path of about 6 feet between a barbed wire fence and the edge of the lake - this is, we understand, the minimum width allowed. However, over the last 4 years the hedge/nettles/brambles of the fence side and the water rushes and brambles on the lake bank have encroached onto the bridle path and the width is now less than 3 feet. This is made worse by the fact that the bridlepath gets very wet (some of it is below water level) and it is almost hock deep in mud in winter and very rutted in summer.

So far we've put up with this with no complaining but today we had real problems with the anglers. We think there may have been a match or just a lot of folks turned up to take advantage of a wonderful day, but the lake was packed and the bridle path was unpassable. Every 5 feet was a fisherman sitting on his chair in the middle of the bridle path with small tent/shelters erected. We had to turn around and abandon our ride as they refused to move. The path isn't wide enough to go round them (the fence prevents it anyway) and the lake is too deep to wade through. Plus the tents contain evil pony eating monsters that haven't eaten for months and a man sitting on a stool is a disguised pony muncher too!

We are going to write to the landowner (who hates horses), the Rights of Way Officer at the local council and contact our local BHS bridlepath person to ask if something can be done.

The landowner owns all the land around the lake so the bridlepath could be diverted (with permission) to the other side of the lake where there is no fence or the fence could be removed or moved, or the fishermen could be asked not to fish off the bridle path. Do these sound like reasonable solutions?

We don't want to spoil the fishermans' enjoyment of what is a beautiful spot and I'm sure there must be a solution that pleases all.

We are also going to contact the fishing club that fish the lake to see when matches are scheduled so we can avoid hacking out on those days but it does seem a daft measure given that they are blocking a legitimate right of way.

Any other ideas or suggestions?
Thanks for listening to the rant - I feel better already!
 

Lordy100

Well-Known Member
Joined
3 January 2008
Messages
451
Location
Charing, Kent
Visit site
Get onto your BHS rights of way person and keep complaining to the council. I am pretty sure that you can't block a right of way so you would have bee within your rights to keep going through the fishing people's stuff. When you contact the fishing club have the relevant info available so that you can quote about the rights of way and access etc. Good luck
 

Rowreach

Adjusting my sails
Joined
13 May 2007
Messages
17,957
Location
Northern Ireland
Visit site
You are right to get in touch with the landowner/LA/BHS but personally I wouldn't offer to stay off the bridlepath when a match is in progress if it is a designated bridleway.

My OH is a match angler and I have just asked him - he says the anglers should move for you (although I know from experience that anglers do b****r all if they don't want to
frown.gif
My OH says he would certainly make sure his pole is out of the way because he wouldn't want you landing on it (£2K worth
shocked.gif
)
grin.gif
They used to fish a lot of matches on a canal tow path where they still use barge horses, and it was the anglers' responsibility to ensure the path was clear for horses and pedestrian alike.

Good luck with it
smile.gif
 

Cahill

Well-Known Member
Joined
9 March 2007
Messages
5,258
Visit site
surley the fishermen only have a right to use the bridleway to get from A to B? not to camp out on the right of way.
i would be very cross
frown.gif
 

The Bouncing Bog Trotter

Well-Known Member
Joined
7 December 2008
Messages
2,009
Location
East Sussex
Visit site
Thanks for all your replies so far.

It wasn't possible for them to move as it would have meant taking down their tent things etc. On previous occasions we've had to deal with rods being used for casting in a way that meant they were waved very close to us. I've fished too in the past so I know what's involved with casting and I know it doesn't involve flicking the rod and line at our horses.....
 

marmalade76

Well-Known Member
Joined
24 April 2009
Messages
6,977
Location
Gloucestershire
Visit site
It is an offence to obstruct a public right of way. We have a local rights of way officer and she is great. We have had trouble with people trying to run a shooting school next to a bridle way and they have been told they have to stop shooting whenever anyone wants to use it (you have to press a button on the fence and wait for them to stop) I would recommend you try to contact your rights of way officer and let them deal with the landowner.
 

The Bouncing Bog Trotter

Well-Known Member
Joined
7 December 2008
Messages
2,009
Location
East Sussex
Visit site
The lake is a private water leased to a fishing club so the anglers were either members of the club or competitors in a match organised by them. We'll be writing a very polite letter to the club but want to make sure we have our facts straight first.
 

AmyMay

Situation normal
Joined
1 July 2004
Messages
66,617
Location
South
Visit site
Can't add anything to the above. Except you can go down with strimmers etc. and do some clearing of the path yourself.....
 

PeterNatt

Well-Known Member
Joined
15 July 2003
Messages
4,631
Location
London and Hertfordshire
s68.photobucket.com
The anglers where causing an illegal obstruction of the bridleway. The bridleway should not be fenced with barbed wire fencing. It should be fenced with Post and Rail Fencing if it is a narrow corridor and this should ahve been specified when the planners gace permission for the lake.

I would write to te Access Department of your local County Council and explain the problem. Provide a map showing where the lake and bridleway is located. Ask them to confirm receipt of your letter and advise you what action they intend taking. Include details of when the lake was created/installed. Send your letter by 'Royal Mail Special Delivery' so that there is no doubt that they have received your letter. If you have not heard from them within 4 weeks then write again.

Also contact your local BHS Bridleway Officer. If you do not know who they are then contact me by P.M. advising me of the nearest Town and County you are in and I will provide you with their contact details.

Peter Natt BHS Bridleway Officer
 
Top