BN and Discovery Finals @ Scope

[dieseldog]

For those of you who went how many horses were entered in these classes?

I was just wondering how much of an effect the reduction in numbers qualifying had on the actual class at Scope.

 

[SJFAN]

I assume there will be some indication in the H & H report on Thursday. It's probably a good thing if numbers were lower given what has been said about the weather and the state of the rings.

 

[x_lou_x]

there werent many!! i think there was something like 18 in the british novice finals!!
personnally i feel that the new system needs reviewing for next year!
it also worries me that the young horse have 2 race so much against the clock in the second rounds - i feel that this will not beifit the next generation of horses.
i would like to see these classes concentrating on jumping ability not speed!!

 

[SJFAN]

You are right- no sensible producers want their "babies" pushed against the clock.

 

[H's mum]

Absolutely - and my word they really do fly them round in the finals - it's quite scary really!

Kate x

 

[SJFAN]

BSJA decision-makers really should be taking note and then taking action!

 

[Helena88]

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it also worries me that the young horse have 2 race so much against the clock in the second rounds - i feel that this will not beifit the next generation of horses.
i would like to see these classes concentrating on jumping ability not speed!!

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i agree

 

[paintsplat05]

there were about 30 starters in each and yeah they flew round in the JO,riders really pushing them on and doing some really risky tight turns!

 

[Taz975]

Thats not true there were 18 in one, and about 25 in the other, I have the start lists somewhere.

And the standard was not that high, one (novice I think) had quite a few double clears but in the discovery there was only one or two double clears so speed was not needed to win it.

And the winner of the Discovery is a very good producer of youngsters IMHO!
And most of the horses which are pushed against the clock/doing the turns in the finals are jumping at least fox by then.

 

[SJFAN]

I agree that the winning rider in te Discovery is a good producer.

I don't believe that horses in Fox, assuming they have the potential to go a lot further, should be chased against the clock either. That is where one of the ways in which our system fails in contrast to Germany's, where horses aged under 7 are not asked to go against the clock. Another significant one is that in Germany and Switzerland riders have to reach a suitable standard of flatwork before being allowed to jump competitively.

 

[dieseldog]

I was interested as our horse was 3rd (BN) and 4th (Dis) in the regional finals and in normal years would have qualified to go. I didn't think there would have been many there. To qualify now to go to Scope you have to go seriously fast around a 1.25/1.30 JO where as before if you jumped 3 clears you'd get in - a lot to ask a horse that was jumping .90 at the begining of the year.

 

[Taz975]

Yeah I agree with you sjfan but I didnt think in the BN and Disc finals they were chased particularly.
I think qualifying for those finals is alot harder than the actual finals you have to do when your there.

 

[seza]

I was recently talking to someone from the BSJA about this as our boy had qualified for both BN and disc. As he is well over 17H and still very green he did not qualify as he cannot be competetive against against the clock at the moment. Anyway she said that one of the reasons for the change was that the BSJA did not want large classes in BN and Disc at Scope. I can see their point but it is still very disappointing as in previous years we would have qualified. I believe it is being revised for next year.

 

[1588]

Just interested to know what was wrong with the rings, was the going not good??

 

[SJFAN]

Look at post in Latest News Forum - Re: U 18's Scope Championship Result [Re: Rizz1a]
#1296854 - 03/09/2006 11:12

 

[H's mum]

Unfortunately it rained so hard for so long that week that the rings were very deep and slippy - a lot of people pulled out rather than risk their horses
Kate x

 

[dieseldog]

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Anyway she said that one of the reasons for the change was that the BSJA did not want large classes in BN and Disc at Scope. I can see their point but it is still very disappointing as in previous years we would have qualified. I believe it is being revised for next year.

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But they still let 10 qualify from Newcomers and Fox, ever feel like 2nd class members?

 

[KarenX]

Strange they didnt change this in the pony British Novice, only Senior! There was 118 starters in the Junior British Novice!!

Karen